Which colleges are as good as HYPMS…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP wants schools as good as HYPSM without the brand name or recognition. All the suggestions like Mudd or Brown have recognized names. Surely DCUM can do better and give OP a great unrecognized school.

Sure…because unrecognized schools somehow have great networks and career outcomes even though almost nobody has heard of it.

What OP is after doesn’t exist. Harvey Mudd is probably the closest (but would imagine you do need to play the REA/ED game).

A school like Rose Hulman has good career outcomes and not super selective…but it doesn’t have a huge network and won’t provide the career optionality of the usual suspects.

Exactly, this whole thread is nonsense.

[Anonymous]

https://www.topuniversities.com/world-university-rankings

This QS ranking will surely help

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP wants schools as good as HYPSM without the brand name or recognition. All the suggestions like Mudd or Brown have recognized names. Surely DCUM can do better and give OP a great unrecognized school.

Sure…because unrecognized schools somehow have great networks and career outcomes even though almost nobody has heard of it.

What OP is after doesn’t exist. Harvey Mudd is probably the closest (but would imagine you do need to play the REA/ED game).

A school like Rose Hulman has good career outcomes and not super selective…but it doesn’t have a huge network and won’t provide the career optionality of the usual suspects.

Exactly, this whole thread is nonsense.

+1 Please make it stop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP wants schools as good as HYPSM without the brand name or recognition. All the suggestions like Mudd or Brown have recognized names. Surely DCUM can do better and give OP a great unrecognized school.

Sure…because unrecognized schools somehow have great networks and career outcomes even though almost nobody has heard of it.

What OP is after doesn’t exist. Harvey Mudd is probably the closest (but would imagine you do need to play the REA/ED game).

A school like Rose Hulman has good career outcomes and not super selective…but it doesn’t have a huge network and won’t provide the career optionality of the usual suspects.

Exactly, this whole thread is nonsense.

+1 Please make it stop.

Actually, I guess I even have to qualify this because the sentiment expressed by PP is as asinine as the premise of the OP’s question. You people are the worst.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The inherent, inescapable dilemma faced by a site like DCUM is that a significant percentage of its commenters think that US News is an infallible holy writ. In their minds, good schools outside the T20 cannot exist; if they were so good, surely they’d be in the top 20!

On top of this, any time someone highlights individual schools outside the top US News list, jackasses write dismissive comments that undermine it. What incentive do I have to name a gem of a school if it’s just going to be savaged by some POS dad here?

[Anonymous]

DCUM is full of contradictions. It loves to use HYPSM and separate out ivies, but also likes to promote other schools outside of T20 as being identical in prestige or even better. It’s all so ridiculous, can’t take much seriously on here anymore as way too many agendas.

[Anonymous]

Most people don’t know or care about the T-25 or SLACs. Just walk into any Wal-Mart and take a survey. Most people worried about real issues- keeping up with mortgage/rent and car payments, medical bills, making sure their kids become self-sufficient (the crazy high involvement college admissions process runs counter to that in many affluent families). Keeping it real.

[Anonymous]

No other college is as good as HYPMS. They are the definitive 5.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well those are the top ones, OP.

Other good universities:

*Rest of the Ivies
'*Duke
*Northwestern
*U of Chicago
*Notre Dame
*BC
*Vanderbilt
*Good state universities- Berkeley, UCLA, UVA, UNC, U Mich, U WI, U TX, WM
*Williams
*Amherst
*Swarthmore
*Pomona
*Middlebury
Many others

+1
I'd add Bowdoin and Carleton to this list.

Umm. No

Ummm. Yea

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.topuniversities.com/world-university-rankings

This QS ranking will surely help

Ummmm. No

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know or care about the T-25 or SLACs. Just walk into any Wal-Mart and take a survey. Most people worried about real issues- keeping up with mortgage/rent and car payments, medical bills, making sure their kids become self-sufficient (the crazy high involvement college admissions process runs counter to that in many affluent families). Keeping it real.

Waaaaay too much truth here. Be careful, there are posters here that get really upset when you disrupt their obsessions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know or care about the T-25 or SLACs. Just walk into any Wal-Mart and take a survey. Most people worried about real issues- keeping up with mortgage/rent and car payments, medical bills, making sure their kids become self-sufficient (the crazy high involvement college admissions process runs counter to that in many affluent families). Keeping it real.

The problem is if you walk into a WalMart and ask them basic questions about literally anything (current events, basic history, basic math) they won’t be able to answer those questions either.

So…why is the random WalMart person relevant to any of this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody separates the Ivies like the psychos on dcum. lol They are all regarded highly, as are the other T10/20s.

+++

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know or care about the T-25 or SLACs. Just walk into any Wal-Mart and take a survey. Most people worried about real issues- keeping up with mortgage/rent and car payments, medical bills, making sure their kids become self-sufficient (the crazy high involvement college admissions process runs counter to that in many affluent families). Keeping it real.

The problem is if you walk into a WalMart and ask them basic questions about literally anything (current events, basic history, basic math) they won’t be able to answer those questions either.

So…why is the random WalMart person relevant to any of this?

I agree but a common refrain is "nobody has heard of it how can it be good?" If name recognition is the standard Bama rolls with Harvard in the US. Harvard may be known in Asia but outside of certain groups trying to impress their relatives that point is meaningless as well. People need to get over this nonsense since their is very little differentiation in the student bodies among the top 30 Universities and top 20 SLACs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know or care about the T-25 or SLACs. Just walk into any Wal-Mart and take a survey. Most people worried about real issues- keeping up with mortgage/rent and car payments, medical bills, making sure their kids become self-sufficient (the crazy high involvement college admissions process runs counter to that in many affluent families). Keeping it real.

The problem is if you walk into a WalMart and ask them basic questions about literally anything (current events, basic history, basic math) they won’t be able to answer those questions either.

So…why is the random WalMart person relevant to any of this?

I agree but a common refrain is "nobody has heard of it how can it be good?" If name recognition is the standard Bama rolls with Harvard in the US. Harvard may be known in Asia but outside of certain groups trying to impress their relatives that point is meaningless as well. People need to get over this nonsense since their is very little differentiation in the student bodies among the top 30 Universities and top 20 SLACs.

I agree with you until here. After doing admit days, I very much felt differently. A couple of very top schools compared to another school just inside of T20. The current felt very different, a distinct positive for some no doubt, but definitely a different student body.