You are the same people who vote to “defund the police”, and voted for the following: -up to 25 year olds are minors in DC from legal standpoint -violence interrupters instead of police -defunding the police -police aren’t allowed to chase criminals -minors who commit literal murder to be held until 21 and then released (for example the two that beat the DJ to death in Shaw trying to rob him, or the group of teen girls who beat the special needs man to death in brightwood) -and most importantly policies that allow criminals who get caught with guns, drugs, etc to be back on the street very quickly. There are two many examples for me to even dig up and this is a non-debatable phenomenon In light of this, we are supposed to believe that if you banned all guns, you would actually hold the people that commit these shootings accountable despite the fact that you never have shown any evidence of doing so in the past? You see how ridiculous this sounds? |
We haven't tried real violence interrupters or really defunding the police. That's why these policies failed. They didn't get enough support. |
Agreed. --Democrat |
Typical R tactic: underfund and inhibit an initiative, then claim it doesn't work. |
Kid's boss was endorsed by the NRA. Of course criminals aren't going to use legal guns; they have too many easier, cheaper ways to get them, because the NRA and their disciples flood the world with guns. More guns, more firepower, fewer speedbumps to getting a gun. The average legal gun owner has 4-5 individual weapons; there are whole conventions and trade shows with trucks stuffed with guns. So of course it's going to be easy for criminals to get them. If there were simply fewer guns, fewer criminals would be able to get them. Do you hear about a lot of stolen Ferraris? No. Because there are very few Ferraris compared to Hyundais. This shouldn't be hard, if it weren't for the right-wing death cult. Guns should be rare, expensive, tracked, and have a real-world purpose. Hunting, fine. Target skill shooting, fine. Arsenal for potential gov't overthrow? Insanity. Like the gravy seals are going to go up against the US Army. Deluded. Unhinged. And totally supported by Ron Estes of Kansas. |
The Marshall shooting was late in the evening. There are lots of stories about it in the media. |
It was at 10 am. https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/u-s-marshal-shoots-man-near-dc-convention-center-sources-say/3934558/?amp=1 |
Criminals do not get their guns through lawful channels. Lock up felons in possession for ten years, plus the local gun possession charge, plus the other associated violations. See how fast the problem goes away. |
A significant number of mass shootings in the U.S. involved legally obtained firearms. Between 1982 and September 2024, 100 mass shootings were committed with legally purchased weapons, while only 16 involved illegally obtained guns.
Approximately 60% of guns used in crimes in the United States were originally legally obtained. This statistic is derived from various analyses of gun trace data, which indicate that a significant portion of firearms involved in criminal activities were purchased legally before being misused. For instance, a report highlighted that among traced crime guns, a substantial number were initially sold through licensed dealers, reflecting the ongoing debate about gun ownership regulations and their implications for public safety. This data underscores the complexity of gun violence issues, as many firearms used in crimes are not acquired through illegal means. There are 400 million guns in America. 400,000,000 guns. four hundred million. That is insane. It’s a plague, a public health crisis, and a disgusting shame. |
No, they steal them. Which is easy, because there are SO DAMN MANY OF THEM. Reduce the guns, reduce the gun crime. That easy. |
we are told there are 600 mass shootings a year, but you can only find 100 total committed with legally opened guns over 40 years. Seems like legally owned guns are used in a tiny percentage of mass shootings |
Very easy- There are SO DAMN MANY Criminals. Get them off the streets, HARD, and watch what happens. Every time you lock up a criminal for legit year's and charges, the crime goes down, because each of them is obviously committing crimes consistently. Criminals will find a way to get weapons and guns. Mexican cartels would just get even more powerful if they became the more exclusive supplier of weapons. Get the criminals, and the crime shrinks. DC is against this, as well documented on this forum thread. |
But equity |
They were in the United States are police allowed to chase someone who is not a felon, not because they care about people, but because it kills cops. Also, the huge drop and crime in Baltimore is because of violence interrupts. And defunding the police just meant that let police do their job and don’t turn them into social workers. |
Actually, that’s not true. Look up three strikes you are out and you will see that putting people in jail when they commit minor crimes ….crime goes up. |