u Liittle Super Copa Hot Takes?
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Anonymous
They had fun, played some good soccer teams, and maybe had their horizons expanded for what soccer can be. The families presumably could afford it. Why harsh on their parade? It’s not the World Cup but it doesn’t need to be. They’re 9-10. |
Anonymous
I think part of the issue, which is frequently documented, is that one of the main reason kids dropout of soccer is due to the professionalism factor. Kids are getting so much pressure to train to be professional that it loses the fun. So while, yes, this seems like a nice event, the reality is you are perpetuating a systemic issue with youth sport. This doesnt bother me as I didnt send my kid, but just trying to connect the dots here. |
Anonymous
Appreciate the thoughtful answer. More informative than just criticizing the event. |
Anonymous
If the kids do not know “the prestige,” is it a problem? Is it possible, a kid understands to dumb down the hype? My kids were here in Super Y and I would have much rather been in Utah for that experience. The quality was no where near the talent level of the players I know were there and we did “play up.” We are not with one of those clubs who went but would do it if available. I consider it soccer tourism. My other kids look forward to supporting each other’s tournaments and adventures together. I am pretty sure “everybody” on here with the means to send a kid and access would go. I think a lot of people are fooling themselves as they do not have access. I don’t either but I don’t fool myself into thinking that traveling with my family is a bad thing. |
Anonymous
My wife put it in good perspective to me one day, as she does most days. If I want to go on a vacation to X place, it is to go on a vacation, not for a soccer tournament. There is a time and place for everything, just not sure shlepping 8/9/10 year olds across the country or oversees to play soccer is “quality family time”. I am sure they had a good time as I would hope they would, but I bet you they would have an even better time at the “Atlantis”. If your kid is good, then they will be on a national team at the right age when the time is right. Plenty of time for travel, long weekends and repurposed family vacations in the future. Enjoy the time you have today and stop trying to rush to get ahead of things because it believes it gives you and edge. It can actually be more detrimental in the long run, but to their each their own. |
Anonymous
Couple things here: 1) professionalism factor is frequently documented. But it is observationally done so in media, and is never been causatively linked to soccer (or other youth sports) drop-out rate. The fact that at the very top end (<5%) of competitiveness, you see this, can’t be attributed logically to the other 95% dropping out. Do some reading on burn-out, it’s real, but it’s not what people think it is. 2) there are plenty of options for youth that are not pressure oriented, fun oriented and allow for great competition, pride and travel opportunity. Classic league does a great job of this with national championships and the ability to enter just about any tournament. NPL, DPL, NL, etc as well. Trying to be the very best isn’t for everyone, everyone has their own journey, and that is totally OK. Yes, the insta-famous kids have insane parents, and they LOOK like theirs trying to go pro, but 99.9999% of them are trying to go to college OR have a influencer career, not going pro. Follow the actual Pros, not the Joes. 3) Pressure is part of the process. The very best athletes recognize that and use the stress (read on that too, ie eustress vs distress, etc) to grow. And the very best competitors understand that as they get better and climb the ranks of competition, the pressure and stress increases, those that flourish find ways to cope and channel the stress into their development - One of the many reasons why at the top levels the difference between the best and the rest is the mental side of the game. 4) You all are spot on, the Super Copa at anything under u13 is stupid. There isn’t any development from that one tournament, and the best of the best aren’t there playing at age. It’s even less developmental when your coach is brining in guests to compete - many of those guests do not know how to work within a team. (Perfect example is Ballers Elite sneaking in for their family’s IGs - all the goals they posted are borderline offside foot races…that absolutely developed the perfect US HS style of play..well done fab). |
Anonymous
Ballers elite struggled against real teams lol |
Anonymous
At that age, are they the best of the best more because of their technical ability or their size/athleticsm advantage? Have you ever seen a smaller player playing up and dominating? |
Anonymous
Dominating meaning I would pick the small player out of everybody on the field to be a pro, yes. On the scoreboard, his team was down 6-0 against an age group higher so the team domination was going the other way although he was cooking and had the best technique of everybody on the field. Winning at this age means nothing about development and it would be nice if parents learned to understand that. |
Anonymous
Yes… but not on ballers 🤣 One of their players was at a camp this past week and she looked pedestrian at best. Huge drop off between what insta looks like and reality. They’re not the best at this age. |