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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Some did well in group stage, but it [u]looks like[/u] [b]every single local (?) team that when to Utah for [u]u8[/u]-12 got crushed[/b]. Worth the investment?[/quote]

If that is what it &quot;looks like,&quot; you need a new eyeglasses prescription.

Let's take u10 (2015) boys, for example.  Coppermine, SYC, and Bethesda each finished second in their groups (losing only one game each to some of the top teams in the country), with SYC and Bethesda advancing to the final 4 and Coppermine narrowly missing out by losing in PKs.  Then, in the final 4, SYC lost in PKs and Bethesda lost by one goal to the eventual gold champion.

For u10 girls (2015), SYC went 3-0 in their group and GFR went 2-0-1 (but both losing in the knockout stages), while Bethesda went 2-1 in their group and won all three playoff games to win their bracket.

And in the u11 boys (2014), SYC went 3-0 in the group only to lose in the playoffs.

Also, there is no u8 in this tournament, so clearly you aren't paying attention.

Long story short, almost all of the teams that went represented the DMV very well against some of the other top teams in the country.

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The U10 SYC vs GFR play-in game for the top bracket was a great game![/quote]

Fly to Utah to play a u10 game against a team 20 minutes from you at home.[/quote]

It just worked out that way (pointwise) after the Group Stage and as I said, it was a great game between 2 very good teams, regardless of your thoughts. So are you suggesting it they should not have played each other in the play-in game for the playoffs, quarter finals, semi finals, or finals? There are 4 teams in the area and none of them were in the same group as promised by the tournament. Losing the play-in game did not knock you out of the tournament, winner went into the (Iber Cup) playoff bracket and the other went into the Gold playoff bracket. So yes, fly to Utah to play in one of the prestigious tournaments in the country to possibly play a local team in the later rounds. [/quote]

Prestigious? For 9 year olds?[/quote]

They had fun, played some good soccer teams, and maybe had their horizons expanded for what soccer can be. The families presumably could afford it. Why harsh on their parade? It’s not the World Cup but it doesn’t need to be. They’re 9-10.[/quote]I think part of the issue, [b]which is frequently documented[/b], is that one of the main reason kids dropout of soccer is [b]due to the professionalism factor[/b]. Kids are getting so much pressure to train to be professional that it loses the fun. So while, yes, this seems like a nice event, the reality is you are perpetuating a systemic issue with youth sport. This doesnt bother me as I didnt send my kid, but just trying to connect the dots here. [/quote]

Couple things here:
1) professionalism factor is frequently documented. But it is observationally done so in media, and is never been causatively linked to soccer (or other youth sports) drop-out rate. The fact that at the very top end (&lt;5%) of competitiveness, you see this, can’t be attributed logically to the other 95% dropping out. Do some reading on burn-out, it’s real, but it’s not what people think it is.

2) there are plenty of options for youth that are not pressure oriented, fun oriented and allow for great competition, pride and travel opportunity. Classic league does a great job of this with national championships and the ability to enter just about any tournament. NPL, DPL, NL, etc as well. Trying to be the very best isn’t for everyone, everyone has their own journey, and that is totally OK. Yes, the insta-famous kids have insane parents, and they LOOK like theirs trying to go pro, but 99.9999% of them are trying to go to college OR have a influencer career, not going pro. Follow the actual Pros, not the Joes.

3) Pressure is part of the process. The very best athletes recognize that and use the stress (read on that too, ie eustress vs distress, etc) to grow. And the very best competitors understand that as they get better and climb the ranks of competition, the pressure and stress increases, those that flourish find ways to cope and channel the stress into their development - One of the many reasons why at the top levels the difference between the best and the rest is the mental side of the game.

4) You all are spot on, the Super Copa at anything under u13 is stupid. There isn’t any development from that one tournament, and the best of the best aren’t there playing at age. It’s even less developmental when your coach is brining in guests to compete - many of those guests do not know how to work within a team. (Perfect example is Ballers Elite sneaking in for their family’s IGs - all the goals they posted are borderline offside foot races…that absolutely developed the perfect US HS style of play..well done fab).

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At that age, are they the best of the best  more because of their technical ability or their size/athleticsm advantage?

Have you ever seen a smaller player playing up and dominating?[/quote]

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