USMNT lol!

[Anonymous]

Ranked 16th in FIFA out of 211.

Of course being top 10 would be better. But 16 out of 211 is something to laugh at?

[Anonymous]

Soccer will never be the dominant male sport in America. It is not in the culture. Football, baseball, basketball are the OGs here like apple pie. Now you have lacrosse making huge strides in other parts of the country as well. It is an uphill battle and money thru sponors and advertising plays a massive role. Sad BUT true.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Soccer will never be the dominant male sport in America. It is not in the culture. Football, baseball, basketball are the OGs here like apple pie. Now you have lacrosse making huge strides in other parts of the country as well. It is an uphill battle and money thru sponors and advertising plays a massive role. Sad BUT true.

Well you can't say *never* because culture can change. There probably needs to be a culturally relevant home-grown soccer star to raise the profile of the sport. Think what Tiger Woods did for golf and Bird/Magic/MJ did for basketball or Mohammed Ali or Serena Williams. But these types of generational stars that can cross over to the culture don't come along often. And if there were a mega soccer talent in the US they would probably move to Europe and we'd never see them play. It might take decades for the culture to change or it may never happen.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

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Anonymous wrote:Ranked 16th in FIFA out of 211.

Of course being top 10 would be better. But 16 out of 211 is something to laugh at?

Switzerland is ranked 20th and Canada is 30th. Both teams the US has lost to in the past few months. The US is realistically in the 30’s.

Oh and by the way it is FIFA/coca-Cola ranking lol!

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

Tell that to the USWNT.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

No, we don't need more kids playing we need more watching.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

No, we don't need more kids playing we need more watching.

Some of the folks living in their soccer bubbles have no idea just how small the soccer revenue share is in this country compared with other sports. It's obviously way behind NFL MLB, NBA but also is dwarfed by college football, NHL hockey, March Madness, NASCAR, PGA golf. Think about that for a moment. You've probably never watched NASCAR or golf on TV but they have way more TV revenue than soccer. And most of the soccer being watched in the US is the European leagues. Take that away and US soccer TV revenue is basically non-existent. It's a niche pay to pay sport like lacrosse or rugby.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

No, we don't need more kids playing we need more watching.

Some of the folks living in their soccer bubbles have no idea just how small the soccer revenue share is in this country compared with other sports. It's obviously way behind NFL MLB, NBA but also is dwarfed by college football, NHL hockey, March Madness, NASCAR, PGA golf. Think about that for a moment. You've probably never watched NASCAR or golf on TV but they have way more TV revenue than soccer. And most of the soccer being watched in the US is the European leagues. Take that away and US soccer TV revenue is basically non-existent. It's a niche pay to pay sport like lacrosse or rugby.

You said all that to make what point?

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

No, we don't need more kids playing we need more watching.

Some of the folks living in their soccer bubbles have no idea just how small the soccer revenue share is in this country compared with other sports. It's obviously way behind NFL MLB, NBA but also is dwarfed by college football, NHL hockey, March Madness, NASCAR, PGA golf. Think about that for a moment. You've probably never watched NASCAR or golf on TV but they have way more TV revenue than soccer. And most of the soccer being watched in the US is the European leagues. Take that away and US soccer TV revenue is basically non-existent. It's a niche pay to pay sport like lacrosse or rugby.

You said all that to make what point?

not my prior comment. But the point is there has to be money in the sport and general popularity for the United States to be competitive in it at an international level. It's not just about the number of kids playing rec soccer. You'll probably see two somewhat competing camps on this board re: whether pick-up/street soccer or soccer training is more important, but really they're two sides of the same coin. In countries where the sport is the most popular sport two things happen. One, kids play the game non-stop. playgrounds and fields are full of kids. kids root for and follow their local football squads as well as the top players and leagues. Also in those countries, the popularity of the sport allows for their to be may more professional clubs and a tiered structure of competition. Those professional teams have their own subsidized academies that are looking to promote (or sell) talented players. In England, I believe there are over 90 youth academies associated with clubs. In France, every Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 squad is required to have an academy in addition to government funded local academies to keep player costs down.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for executing those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

No, we don't need more kids playing we need more watching.

Some of the folks living in their soccer bubbles have no idea just how small the soccer revenue share is in this country compared with other sports. It's obviously way behind NFL MLB, NBA but also is dwarfed by college football, NHL hockey, March Madness, NASCAR, PGA golf. Think about that for a moment. You've probably never watched NASCAR or golf on TV but they have way more TV revenue than soccer. And most of the soccer being watched in the US is the European leagues. Take that away and US soccer TV revenue is basically non-existent. It's a niche pay to pay sport like lacrosse or rugby.

You said all that to make what point?

not my prior comment. But the point is there has to be money in the sport and general popularity for the United States to be competitive in it at an international level. It's not just about the number of kids playing rec soccer. You'll probably see two somewhat competing camps on this board re: whether pick-up/street soccer or soccer training is more important, but really they're two sides of the same coin. In countries where the sport is the most popular sport two things happen. One, kids play the game non-stop. playgrounds and fields are full of kids. kids root for and follow their local football squads as well as the top players and leagues. Also in those countries, the popularity of the sport allows for their to be may more professional clubs and a tiered structure of competition. Those professional teams have their own subsidized academies that are looking to promote (or sell) talented players. In England, I believe there are over 90 youth academies associated with clubs. In France, every Ligue 1 and Ligue 2 squad is required to have an academy in addition to government funded local academies to keep player costs down.

How exactly is the structure of these government funded academies?
Never heard of them
Are they like YMCA?

You're saying as rich as they are, the PSG Academy is subsidized by the French Government?

Which countries in Europe or the UK are richer than us?

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Well they killed the chances of that when they cut kids off from playing with their friends when they are 7 and 8 years old....the best athletes are not known at age 7, but what is known is that kids that age want to play with their friends. Maybe by age 13 they don't care but at that point the better athletes have chosen other sports that make it easier for entry.