USMNT lol!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought we were supposed to get more competitive, not less, when moving to 'birth year'

Glad we upended the entire youth soccer universe for 10 years to recruit for the national team based on birth year.

It’s not that. It’s the US system of pay to play. It creates low level of play and players. Without the players who were developed in Europe the US has nothing. Any serious play needs to leave the US by 15/16. We can not develop players in the states.

With the size of the pool and the amount of money spent the US should be adding 2-3 quality players each year the national team. There is no competition at any of the positions.

You can still pay to play and have good development.

We don’t develop well. I would even say you should leave at age 12 and go to Europe to get better!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought we were supposed to get more competitive, not less, when moving to 'birth year'

Glad we upended the entire youth soccer universe for 10 years to recruit for the national team based on birth year.

It’s not that. It’s the US system of pay to play. It creates low level of play and players. Without the players who were developed in Europe the US has nothing. Any serious play needs to leave the US by 15/16. We can not develop players in the states.

With the size of the pool and the amount of money spent the US should be adding 2-3 quality players each year the national team. There is no competition at any of the positions.

You can still pay to play and have good development.

We don’t develop well. I would even say you should leave at age 12 and go to Europe to get better!!!

Exactly. It's the same way kids in Europe come here to play basketball in high schools and colleges. The development, competition, and money making prospects are just much better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought we were supposed to get more competitive, not less, when moving to 'birth year'

Glad we upended the entire youth soccer universe for 10 years to recruit for the national team based on birth year.

It’s not that. It’s the US system of pay to play. It creates low level of play and players. Without the players who were developed in Europe the US has nothing. Any serious play needs to leave the US by 15/16. We can not develop players in the states.

With the size of the pool and the amount of money spent the US should be adding 2-3 quality players each year the national team. There is no competition at any of the positions.

You can still pay to play and have good development.

We don’t develop well. I would even say you should leave at age 12 and go to Europe to get better!!!

Exactly. It's the same way kids in Europe come here to play basketball in high schools and colleges. The development, competition, and money making prospects are just much better.

You obviously dont follow basketball much to realize kids in Europe don't need to come here.
Look at the results of international basketball championships and the number of NBA players and league MVP's from Europe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought we were supposed to get more competitive, not less, when moving to 'birth year'

Glad we upended the entire youth soccer universe for 10 years to recruit for the national team based on birth year.

It’s not that. It’s the US system of pay to play. It creates low level of play and players. Without the players who were developed in Europe the US has nothing. Any serious play needs to leave the US by 15/16. We can not develop players in the states.

With the size of the pool and the amount of money spent the US should be adding 2-3 quality players each year the national team. There is no competition at any of the positions.

You can still pay to play and have good development.

We don’t develop well. I would even say you should leave at age 12 and go to Europe to get better!!!

People say this all the time but are people really uprooting their families for a kid to get into an academy abroad? I mean that’s pretty difficult, even harder than here despite the sheer number of clubs there.

players with dual citizenships aren’t moving to Europe unless they’ve already gotten into an academy. If you want to go this route, you better be at a club that is both helping you develop and trying to make the connections to get u seen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have nobody but ourselves to blame. Just look at our country. It’s rotten and our choice in leaders is a reflection of ourselves. You don’t have to spend more than a hot second on any pitch anywhere in the US to realize that we are failing ourselves.

That’s not true. FIFA is also to blame. FIFA has build a wall around Europe to insure European superiority. UEFA gets special treatment, and the rules about minor transfers have an exception for UEFA that makes Europe a soccer development Mecca, attracting the best coaches and minds, but shutting out the rest of the world’s players.

It’s like if the US paid all the best scientists $10m a year to come do their research at US colleges, but then didn’t allow any non-US students to attend any US colleges.

Delusional. It’s about football culture. You think of an egg. Others think of a sphere, something that inherently rolls.

Does culture matter? Yes.

Is culture an excuse? Absolutely.

The US has a soccer culture, if you’re in it, you know. Part of that soccer culture is bemoaning our soccer culture. It’s so dumb. Just like blaming the soccer culture for the lack of kids being world class.

CP, like him or not, is our closest to WC. He went abroad for the last 2 Junior years of development, just 2 years! And became elite. Do you REALLY think it’s culture? Or the lack of access to world class training in order to finish and polish?

Pulisic Left at 16. The speed of play and defensive pressure in practice and games is at another level in Europe that is not match in the US. You can not develop in the US. The “las”t 2 years of development is very important. It is not polishing.

The problem is the US does not understand professional soccer. From the tournament play(multiple games over a few days) to developmental goals at various age groups. 15-18 in Europe is a very select group of players. They are very technical and have been cut down to the top 1-2% of all player. In the US this age is the top 50-60% of the players and they are not close to the Europeans in terms of technical skills and playing under high level pressure. College is just more of the same.

15 to 18? By that age in this country the game is down to well off kids and everybody else which is most kids are cut off. Is that how it is in Europe? How much money does a family have to invest in soccer up to the age of 15 in Europe?

Very little / akin to rec fees. Remember they are socialists in large measure and as a nation prioritize players for National Team duty (that’s how they get fellow citizens to front development costs)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:thought we were supposed to get more competitive, not less, when moving to 'birth year'

Glad we upended the entire youth soccer universe for 10 years to recruit for the national team based on birth year.

It’s not that. It’s the US system of pay to play. It creates low level of play and players. Without the players who were developed in Europe the US has nothing. Any serious play needs to leave the US by 15/16. We can not develop players in the states.

With the size of the pool and the amount of money spent the US should be adding 2-3 quality players each year the national team. There is no competition at any of the positions.

You can still pay to play and have good development.

We don’t develop well. I would even say you should leave at age 12 and go to Europe to get better!!!

Can you?

Messi was super poor - and physically very small. No question he’s generational player. Now think: could he make it even in the MLS Next - let’s face it probably 3rd division in La Liga -today? I’ll answer for you. No.

The sad fact is the bug of US soccer is actually the feature. Folks are making serious bank — so nothing will change.

We have a proxy Euro club we root for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have nobody but ourselves to blame. Just look at our country. It’s rotten and our choice in leaders is a reflection of ourselves. You don’t have to spend more than a hot second on any pitch anywhere in the US to realize that we are failing ourselves.

That’s not true. FIFA is also to blame. FIFA has build a wall around Europe to insure European superiority. UEFA gets special treatment, and the rules about minor transfers have an exception for UEFA that makes Europe a soccer development Mecca, attracting the best coaches and minds, but shutting out the rest of the world’s players.

It’s like if the US paid all the best scientists $10m a year to come do their research at US colleges, but then didn’t allow any non-US students to attend any US colleges.

Delusional. It’s about football culture. You think of an egg. Others think of a sphere, something that inherently rolls.

Does culture matter? Yes.

Is culture an excuse? Absolutely.

The US has a soccer culture, if you’re in it, you know. Part of that soccer culture is bemoaning our soccer culture. It’s so dumb. Just like blaming the soccer culture for the lack of kids being world class.

CP, like him or not, is our closest to WC. He went abroad for the last 2 Junior years of development, just 2 years! And became elite. Do you REALLY think it’s culture? Or the lack of access to world class training in order to finish and polish?

Pulisic Left at 16. The speed of play and defensive pressure in practice and games is at another level in Europe that is not match in the US. You can not develop in the US. The “las”t 2 years of development is very important. It is not polishing.

The problem is the US does not understand professional soccer. From the tournament play(multiple games over a few days) to developmental goals at various age groups. 15-18 in Europe is a very select group of players. They are very technical and have been cut down to the top 1-2% of all player. In the US this age is the top 50-60% of the players and they are not close to the Europeans in terms of technical skills and playing under high level pressure. College is just more of the same.

15 to 18? By that age in this country the game is down to well off kids and everybody else which is most kids are cut off. Is that how it is in Europe? How much money does a family have to invest in soccer up to the age of 15 in Europe?

Very little / akin to rec fees. Remember they are socialists in large measure and as a nation prioritize players for National Team duty (that’s how they get fellow citizens to front development costs)

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have nobody but ourselves to blame. Just look at our country. It’s rotten and our choice in leaders is a reflection of ourselves. You don’t have to spend more than a hot second on any pitch anywhere in the US to realize that we are failing ourselves.

That’s not true. FIFA is also to blame. FIFA has build a wall around Europe to insure European superiority. UEFA gets special treatment, and the rules about minor transfers have an exception for UEFA that makes Europe a soccer development Mecca, attracting the best coaches and minds, but shutting out the rest of the world’s players.

It’s like if the US paid all the best scientists $10m a year to come do their research at US colleges, but then didn’t allow any non-US students to attend any US colleges.

Delusional. It’s about football culture. You think of an egg. Others think of a sphere, something that inherently rolls.

WTF?

What a stupid comment.