USMNT lol!

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yes. Kids playing means very little. Soccer needs to have 10s of millions of people watching on TV. That's where the big money and fame comes from. Big money and fame is what attracts kids. If there was big money we might get more funded academies, etc.

We have more kids playing by the numbers than most countries
But you're saying we need more?

No, we don't need more kids playing we need more watching.

Some of the folks living in their soccer bubbles have no idea just how small the soccer revenue share is in this country compared with other sports. It's obviously way behind NFL MLB, NBA but also is dwarfed by college football, NHL hockey, March Madness, NASCAR, PGA golf. Think about that for a moment. You've probably never watched NASCAR or golf on TV but they have way more TV revenue than soccer. And most of the soccer being watched in the US is the European leagues. Take that away and US soccer TV revenue is basically non-existent. It's a niche pay to pay sport like lacrosse or rugby.

You said all that to make what point?

The point is that all these discussions of US Soccer, age cutoffs, league structure, and a hundred other reasons for the US sucking at soccer are meaningless. Trying to implement what works elsewhere won't work here unless soccer is popular enough to support it. Soccer is a 3rd tier sport. Instead of blaming this, that, and the other thing, we should focus all of our attention on growing the popularity of the sport. That's the only thing that will move the needle.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

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Anonymous wrote:Ranked 16th in FIFA out of 211.

Of course being top 10 would be better. But 16 out of 211 is something to laugh at?

Switzerland is ranked 20th and Canada is 30th. Both teams the US has lost to in the past few months. The US is realistically in the 30’s.

Oh and by the way it is FIFA/coca-Cola ranking lol!

Losing to a lower ranked team happens in any and every sport. Point is, US has always been ranked fairly high among the 211 countries in FIFA.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Why is the US so good at sports where the professional level pays big bucks? Why is the US also good at Olympic sports compared to most other countries? It all comes down to the US being better at sports that either 1) pay a lot at the professional level and have a lot cultural significance OR 2) can out fund the other countries in finding and training athletes. With soccer the US fails both tests, except for the women where they pass test #2 and there is really no competition from other sports here.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

That guy probably won't excel at soccer. What about baseball players and NFL receivers and defensive backs?

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Nobody is saying every single basketball and football player would make a great soccer player at every position. I guess you have to resort to these nonsensical straw man arguments because you have no better facts. The fact remains that the best high school athletes are going to be on the basketball and football teams. Have you watched a high school basketball game? Most kids are around 6 ft. Same with most on the football and track teams. These athletic kids are well suited to play any of these sports and make their choice. It ain't soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Nobody is saying every single basketball and football player would make a great soccer player at every position. I guess you have to resort to these nonsensical straw man arguments because you have no better facts. The fact remains that the best high school athletes are going to be on the basketball and football teams. Have you watched a high school basketball game? Most kids are around 6 ft. Same with most on the football and track teams. These athletic kids are well suited to play any of these sports and make their choice. It ain't soccer.

Like most sports, soccer requires athleticism too. But soccer requires skills not usually associated with the specific athleticism required in other sports. You don’t have to be the fastest or jump the highest. Requires technical skills and control of the ball with the feet that is unique.

Football and basketball players are not better athletes. They are better at their sport. That’s all.

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Anonymous wrote:But MLSNext is the best!

Wow look at ECNL dad go!

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Nobody is saying every single basketball and football player would make a great soccer player at every position. I guess you have to resort to these nonsensical straw man arguments because you have no better facts. The fact remains that the best high school athletes are going to be on the basketball and football teams. Have you watched a high school basketball game? Most kids are around 6 ft. Same with most on the football and track teams. These athletic kids are well suited to play any of these sports and make their choice. It ain't soccer.

Give one Sports Science Performance related study with supporting evidence and peer review that proves your argument

Just one

Also, explain how Offensive and Defensive Linemen are more Athletic than Soccer Players? (Using athletic performance terms)
What makes a Quarterback more athletic than a Soccer Player? (Using athletic performance terms)

What makes a basketball player on a small court stopping every few minutes more athletic than a soccer player running, jumping, sprinting, changing directions quickly for 90 minutes?

The NFL game has been timed as having 12 to tops 17 minutes of actual action.
Why are they more athletic than soccer players?

Please feel free to be detailed in your responses

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Nobody is saying every single basketball and football player would make a great soccer player at every position. I guess you have to resort to these nonsensical straw man arguments because you have no better facts. The fact remains that the best high school athletes are going to be on the basketball and football teams. Have you watched a high school basketball game? Most kids are around 6 ft. Same with most on the football and track teams. These athletic kids are well suited to play any of these sports and make their choice. It ain't soccer.

Like most sports, soccer requires athleticism too. But soccer requires skills not usually associated with the specific athleticism required in other sports. You don’t have to be the fastest or jump the highest. Requires technical skills and control of the ball with the feet that is unique.

Football and basketball players are not better athletes. They are better at their sport. That’s all.

Say it to the ignorant in the back.

Also, if you are taking steroids and other performance enhancing drugs and lifting heavy weights to be big and strong, how are you a "better natural athlete"?

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Why is the US so good at sports where the professional level pays big bucks? Why is the US also good at Olympic sports compared to most other countries? It all comes down to the US being better at sports that either 1) pay a lot at the professional level and have a lot cultural significance OR 2) can out fund the other countries in finding and training athletes. With soccer the US fails both tests, except for the women where they pass test #2 and there is really no competition from other sports here.

The US is behind many countries in Medals per Capita based on population at the Olympics

We just send massive numbers of athletes and compete in almost all events.

We are the richest with the most resources.

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Anonymous wrote:All these are symptoms and not the cause. Soccer is not in the culture here which is why there is no money for real academies and why we have parent coaches at early ages and why skills are not developed early and it’s pay to play and so on. You can call out these symptoms all you want but none them can be solved without first solving the culture problem. No governing body rule change about birth year or league structure or coaching qualifications will magically fix anything until the culture changes.

Right. So let’s revert the age cut off so it’s all about maximizing rec soccer with volunteer coaches that put the biggest bruisers and gazelles on the field and play kick and run. Because that will help.

This whole thing is just insane. Europe has a formula. It’s replicable. But it takes investment.

Investment? Who exactly should be making this investment and where does the money come from?

Money is the problem, not the solution

There are no solutions unless soccer becomes much more popular here to the level of the other big 3 sports.

More popular than millions of kids playing every weekend?

Yep. The best athletes need to pick soccer over other sports. They need to be thinking and dreaming of soccer when they aren't doing their 3 times a week team practice and weekend games.

Best athlete has nothing to do with soccer required skills and IQ

The best athletes are going to be those with the highest ceiling for execuuting those skills and doing so at a speed above their opponents.

Nonsense

Soccer is about speed of play, not speed of you.
Ball is always faster than man.

Speed of play is dictated by the speed of your decision making and execution.

Do you seen any slow players on Team USA with physical handicaps limping along?

I don't know what you're talking about here and how it relates to my comment. But what I'm saying is the US won't dominate if the most naturally gifted athletes choose other sports. The most gifted athletes are going to take learned skills to the highest level possible.

How are the most naturally gifted athletes identified and measured at a young age before placed in sports other than soccer by their parents?

Is the 300lb college Offensive Lineman a more gifted 4 year old than Pulisic was at 4 years old?

It’s not that hard. Go to any high school and all the kids can tell you who are the best athletes in their school. Those kids will be on the football, basketball, & track teams. Not soccer. Kids eventually play the sports they like not where their parents placed them at age 4.

Laughable

Tell us how the 6'10" basketball player would be a better Midfielder in soccer

Nobody is saying every single basketball and football player would make a great soccer player at every position. I guess you have to resort to these nonsensical straw man arguments because you have no better facts. The fact remains that the best high school athletes are going to be on the basketball and football teams. Have you watched a high school basketball game? Most kids are around 6 ft. Same with most on the football and track teams. These athletic kids are well suited to play any of these sports and make their choice. It ain't soccer.

Like most sports, soccer requires athleticism too. But soccer requires skills not usually associated with the specific athleticism required in other sports. You don’t have to be the fastest or jump the highest. Requires technical skills and control of the ball with the feet that is unique.

Football and basketball players are not better athletes. They are better at their sport. That’s all.

Call it however you want. The kids with the natural qualities which would have allowed them to excel in soccer the most are not choosing soccer. Also, a big part of success in sports is having the discipline and nonstop drive to excel and those kids aren’t going into soccer either.

I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. Are you suggesting soccer in the US is drawing the best talent available?