My idea for a new moco community thoughts?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clarksburg is exactly what the OP describes. Villages with condos, townhomes, detached homes, with prices ranging from $250k to $1 million. Locationally, it is as if it is cut out of the AG.

Besides MPDU properties where can you find $250k properties there?

MPDUs are very paternalistic and while they are well-intentioned, they actually harm the financial position of people that qualify to buy them. The units literally are not allowed to appreciate more than inflation (for 30 years) and this effectively limits the financial/wealth accumulation benefits of homeownership. Even if held on to the MPDU for 30 years when MOCO finally allows you to sell it at the market rate, they take 50% of your gains in excess of the inflation adjusted price you purchase it at. The MPDU effort to make housing affordable is actually preventing low income households from building wealth for their family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m always amazed how empty the land is near the West Hyattsville metro. Why not use that space to build a village? It’s not MoCo, but the transit infrastructure is there, and it’s close-in.

It won't be for much longer. It's all being bought up and built out. There's no space for school infrastructure being planned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My idea would be to take 3 square miles out of the Agricultural Reserve for a village-based community. It would be developed over 20 years, with price ranges from $250,000 to $1 million for condos, townhomes, and houses. Apartments would also be included, though you would have to be careful with those—especially regarding the price range.

There would be five villages, each with their own elementary, middle, and high schools, as well as park-and-ride lots to access the Metro stop at the center of the town. As it expands, office space and higher-end shopping could become available.

Just build it on the east side of MoCo instead of using the Agricultural reserve. Great idea, and already near metro stops. The whole Glenmont shopping center area would work nicely for this.

Glenmont is actually a perfect place for such a development. This comment was spot on and most people just ignored it. Glenmont is basically the last affordable Metro stop left in MoCo and it has a large amount of land than can easily increase density without destroying natural areas. That Glenmont shopping center and surrounding neighborhoods are full of potential.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My idea would be to take 3 square miles out of the Agricultural Reserve for a village-based community. It would be developed over 20 years, with price ranges from $250,000 to $1 million for condos, townhomes, and houses. Apartments would also be included, though you would have to be careful with those—especially regarding the price range.

There would be five villages, each with their own elementary, middle, and high schools, as well as park-and-ride lots to access the Metro stop at the center of the town. As it expands, office space and higher-end shopping could become available.

Just build it on the east side of MoCo instead of using the Agricultural reserve. Great idea, and already near metro stops. The whole Glenmont shopping center area would work nicely for this.

Glenmont is actually a perfect place for such a development. This comment was spot on and most people just ignored it. Glenmont is basically the last affordable Metro stop left in MoCo and it has a large amount of land than can easily increase density without destroying natural areas. That Glenmont shopping center and surrounding neighborhoods are full of potential.

So, you want to tear down a community to build for the rich….

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Clarksburg is exactly what the OP describes. Villages with condos, townhomes, detached homes, with prices ranging from $250k to $1 million. Locationally, it is as if it is cut out of the AG.

Besides MPDU properties where can you find $250k properties there?

For $250 you can get a studio or small apartment. A one income person making $60-70k cannot afford that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My idea would be to take 3 square miles out of the Agricultural Reserve for a village-based community. It would be developed over 20 years, with price ranges from $250,000 to $1 million for condos, townhomes, and houses. Apartments would also be included, though you would have to be careful with those—especially regarding the price range.

There would be five villages, each with their own elementary, middle, and high schools, as well as park-and-ride lots to access the Metro stop at the center of the town. As it expands, office space and higher-end shopping could become available.

Just build it on the east side of MoCo instead of using the Agricultural reserve. Great idea, and already near metro stops. The whole Glenmont shopping center area would work nicely for this.

Glenmont is actually a perfect place for such a development. This comment was spot on and most people just ignored it. Glenmont is basically the last affordable Metro stop left in MoCo and it has a large amount of land than can easily increase density without destroying natural areas. That Glenmont shopping center and surrounding neighborhoods are full of potential.

So, you want to tear down a community to build for the rich….

You don't have to tear down anything except for the shopping center. You can probably put a few hundred units and retail there. It would be a big benefit to the community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clarksburg is exactly what the OP describes. Villages with condos, townhomes, detached homes, with prices ranging from $250k to $1 million. Locationally, it is as if it is cut out of the AG.

Besides MPDU properties where can you find $250k properties there?

There are not many but the 1 bedroom condos that are not MPDU are probably around $250k today. Two bedroom condos start around $290k. Townhouses start at $500k and detached homes start at $700k.

There are, just not areas you’d live I. $500k for a townhouse with an hoa fee is not affordable nor are $700k homes. You live in a dream world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My idea would be to take 3 square miles out of the Agricultural Reserve for a village-based community. It would be developed over 20 years, with price ranges from $250,000 to $1 million for condos, townhomes, and houses. Apartments would also be included, though you would have to be careful with those—especially regarding the price range.

There would be five villages, each with their own elementary, middle, and high schools, as well as park-and-ride lots to access the Metro stop at the center of the town. As it expands, office space and higher-end shopping could become available.

Just build it on the east side of MoCo instead of using the Agricultural reserve. Great idea, and already near metro stops. The whole Glenmont shopping center area would work nicely for this.

Glenmont is actually a perfect place for such a development. This comment was spot on and most people just ignored it. Glenmont is basically the last affordable Metro stop left in MoCo and it has a large amount of land than can easily increase density without destroying natural areas. That Glenmont shopping center and surrounding neighborhoods are full of potential.

So, you want to tear down a community to build for the rich….

You don't have to tear down anything except for the shopping center. You can probably put a few hundred units and retail there. It would be a big benefit to the community.

I like that mall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between that and Clarksburg.

Most development in clarksburg is high end. This would have all classes of housing in a healthy dose, hence the separated villages.

Doesn't sound like you have been to Clarksburg.

This. It’s news to that Clarksburg is high end. Newer and overpriced maybe, but high end????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3 miles is not big enough for a high school catchment area unless very densely populated.

OP is not proposing just one high school in this 3 mile area. She is proposing 5!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the point of the agricultural reserve the opposite of your idea?

Not op but the agricultural reserve is huge, and we’re in a housing shortage. would it really hurt to build on a little of it considering most of moco is built out. And lots don’t like high density development.

Particularly the people who bought lots in the ag reserve are people who don’t like high density development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s not sewer and water in the ag reserve. Everything would need septic and wells.

This. It’s physically not feasible in addition to being politically not feasible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn't the point of the agricultural reserve the opposite of your idea?

Not op but the agricultural reserve is huge, and we’re in a housing shortage. would it really hurt to build on a little of it considering most of moco is built out. And lots don’t like high density development.

Particularly the people who bought lots in the ag reserve are people who don’t like high density development.

This would be the lawsuit of the century for MOCO. There would be vicious litigation and the county would need to spend 10M+ defending this decision.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Clarksburg is exactly what the OP describes. Villages with condos, townhomes, detached homes, with prices ranging from $250k to $1 million. Locationally, it is as if it is cut out of the AG.

Besides MPDU properties where can you find $250k properties there?

There are not many but the 1 bedroom condos that are not MPDU are probably around $250k today. Two bedroom condos start around $290k. Townhouses start at $500k and detached homes start at $700k.

There are, just not areas you’d live I. $500k for a townhouse with an hoa fee is not affordable nor are $700k homes. You live in a dream world.

OP said that is what she wants. 3 acres developed in the AG with condos, townhomes, and single family homes, with prices ranging from $250k to $1 million. That's Clarksburg.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the difference between that and Clarksburg.

Most development in clarksburg is high end. This would have all classes of housing in a healthy dose, hence the separated villages.

Doesn't sound like you have been to Clarksburg.

This. It’s news to that Clarksburg is high end. Newer and overpriced maybe, but high end????

Yeah, it is basic housing. Land is pretty cheap in Clarksburg. You can't build cheaper than that. Clarksburg and Urbana too. It gets a little bit cheaper up in Ballenger Creek.