Palestinian Columbia student detained by ICE is released, and has a message for Trump

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.

Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.


You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:

Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?


Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?

This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.


You still haven’t answered the question!

Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.

I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.



Which tells me you just assume there are no first amendment rights to non-citizens. Which is not the case, although the history here is limited. But constraints mostly apply when you are ENTERING the US, not once you have been lawfully admitted, and the longer you have lived here and established a life in the US the more protection you do have under the first. The first amendment said nothing about citizens vs non-citizens, although it does not specify persons particularly. And the Alien Enemies Act (the only one to survive the loathed Alien and Sedition Acts) is currently raising serious constitutional questions about the president's ability to invoke it; these have yet to be settled, but the history of its use certainly does not favor Trump. (Remember how Alito relied on abortion history to overturn Roe v Wade?)

Concurring opinion in 1945 Bridges decision, which overturned the govt attempt to deport a longtime immigrant over his Communist politics:
“… once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders. Such rights include those protected by the First and Fifth Amendments and by the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. None of these provisions acknowledges any distinctions between citizens and resident aliens. They extend their inalienable privileges to all ‘persons’ and guard against any encroachment of those rights by federal or state authority. Indeed, this Court has previously and expressly recognized that Harry Bridges, the alien, possesses the right to free speech and free press and that the Constitution will defend him in the exercise of that right.”


Very thoughtful. But Republicans aren't going to read that. It's always knee jerk identity stuff with them. And Republicans today don't really care for the first amendment. Most Green Card holders have been here forever and have shared their opinions about current events on various mediums. Some like Trump. Some don't. But Republicans are very clear that they don't value free speech. They are demanding fealty to Donald Trump. That's what matters to them. And that is Un-American.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.

Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.


You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:

Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?


Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?

This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.


You still haven’t answered the question!

Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.

I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.



+100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.

Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.


You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:

Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?


Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?

This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.


You still haven’t answered the question!

Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.

I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.



DP. I've never heard of a "left-leaning" independent, but okay. Also, what do you define to be "political activity"? That is at the heart of the matter.


Based on other deportees, political activity would be defined as anything that puts Israel in an unfavorable light.


Goddamned snowflakes, losing their shit over political correctness, DEI, and their obsession with the wole boogeyman, only to make Israel the poster child for all of those things. <retch>


Anonymous
Still waiting for "liberal" Zionists to give us the *countless* examples of "antisemitism" on all of the campuses as they ignore Zionists were the violent ones on campuses like UCLA...where they released mice on the encampment, punched women and shot off fireworks into the encampment.

A racist, bigoted liar like Eyal Yakoby being the face of "college victims" speaking on the hill, is why no gives a sh*t to listen your BS.'

And when it's not campuses, it's being violent mobs of men against ONE woman.

I can only imagine the hysterics from Dana Bash and Jake Tapper if all of these men were Muslim/Palestinian doing this to a Jewish woman (she is Jewish BTW). An animal towards the end throws a traffic cone at her. These are the demons you defend in the WB...and spare us your tepid rebuke of these monsters and bleating "Khamas". They kill and beat with impunity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4JCa60_ZQ&list=RDNSXy4JCa60_ZQ&start_radio=1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.

Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.


You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:

Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?


Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?

This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.


You still haven’t answered the question!

Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.

I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.



You're not "left-leaning" if you believe that. A core value of our country is freedom of expression, and that includes political expression. No, green card holders should not be deported for exercising their 1st Amendment rights.

Anonymous
People are trivializing Mahdawi's detention, but one day in the future, it could be your kids who are deported to El Salvador for not blessing Israel after sneezing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still waiting for "liberal" Zionists to give us the *countless* examples of "antisemitism" on all of the campuses as they ignore Zionists were the violent ones on campuses like UCLA...where they released mice on the encampment, punched women and shot off fireworks into the encampment.

A racist, bigoted liar like Eyal Yakoby being the face of "college victims" speaking on the hill, is why no gives a sh*t to listen your BS.'

And when it's not campuses, it's being violent mobs of men against ONE woman.

I can only imagine the hysterics from Dana Bash and Jake Tapper if all of these men were Muslim/Palestinian doing this to a Jewish woman (she is Jewish BTW). An animal towards the end throws a traffic cone at her. These are the demons you defend in the WB...and spare us your tepid rebuke of these monsters and bleating "Khamas". They kill and beat with impunity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy4JCa60_ZQ&list=RDNSXy4JCa60_ZQ&start_radio=1


Conspiracy, mayhem, felony assault and battery (as well as hate crimes galore, on the federal level) in Westwood?

Big deal!

Someone knocked on a library door - loudly! It was scary!

Someone else “had” to walk 12 more steps to get to class because a group of people exercising their lawful rights to speech and assembly refused to disperse for them! Not cool!

Yet another person had to endure hearing really mean things said about Israel, like, “Ceasefire!”, “Stop the killing now!”, and “No more weapons to Israel!” - how terrified they must have felt!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has gotten so juvenile and silly.

All I can say is Thank God that Trump was elected and the leftists are no longer allowing terrorists and criminals to pour into the country.


Itamar Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu visited not too long ago. Please google the International Criminal Court. Thx


NP. The ICC has flushed any credibility they may have once had straight down the toilet. Thx.


Oh yes, I forgot the ICC was antisemitic. Here are few more organizations speaking out against Israel's war crimes that are also antisemitic:
Doctors without Borders
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
B'tselem
Oxfam
UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry
Médecins du Monde International Network
Center for Constitutional Rights
UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories
International Court of Justice
Save the Children
Christian Aid
Jewish Voices for Peace
International Solidarity Movement
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has gotten so juvenile and silly.

All I can say is Thank God that Trump was elected and the leftists are no longer allowing terrorists and criminals to pour into the country.


Itamar Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu visited not too long ago. Please google the International Criminal Court. Thx


NP. The ICC has flushed any credibility they may have once had straight down the toilet. Thx.


Oh yes, I forgot the ICC was antisemitic. Here are few more organizations speaking out against Israel's war crimes that are also antisemitic:
Doctors without Borders
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
B'tselem
Oxfam
UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry
Médecins du Monde International Network
Center for Constitutional Rights
UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories
International Court of Justice
Save the Children
Christian Aid
Jewish Voices for Peace
International Solidarity Movement


Also the Irish! And the Vatican!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has gotten so juvenile and silly.

All I can say is Thank God that Trump was elected and the leftists are no longer allowing terrorists and criminals to pour into the country.


Itamar Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu visited not too long ago. Please google the International Criminal Court. Thx


NP. The ICC has flushed any credibility they may have once had straight down the toilet. Thx.


Oh yes, I forgot the ICC was antisemitic. Here are few more organizations speaking out against Israel's war crimes that are also antisemitic:
Doctors without Borders
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
B'tselem
Oxfam
UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry
Médecins du Monde International Network
Center for Constitutional Rights
UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories
International Court of Justice
Save the Children
Christian Aid
Jewish Voices for Peace
International Solidarity Movement


Also the Irish! And the Vatican!


Oh right, Israel deleted their condolences and refused to send Benjamin Netanyahu to the funeral because the pope said Israel was a terrorist

https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-jerusalem-israel-funeral-vatican-netanyahu-5e6fd6caa4850b0ee5b4fc8720043e1e
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


It's allowed. It's incredibly offensive but it is not illegal. We have white supremacists in our government right now. And not all of them are born in this country.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


The German Bund literally rallied for Hitler during WW2.

And, instead, they sent American citizens of Japanese ancestry to the camps.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it's terrible that Green Card holders are now having a hard time because Republicans are rejecting future citizens for their imagined thoughts alone. It's un-American.


Would you feel the same way if German white supremacists were protesting outside of black churches?

Didn’t think so.


I'm pretty sure one's thoughts about Netanyahu aren't anywhere on the citizenship application.

Is that what you Republicans are using to decide who's a good American? I think even most Israelis would fail your test.


You keep dodging the question. C’mon—grow a pair and answer the question:

Does the US government have the right to deport foreigners for speech/protest activities?


Are you similarly enthusiastic about President AOC deporting Green Card holders for hypothetical opinions?

This is why Republicans are garbage these days. There is no respect for law and precedent. It's all identity politics with Republicans.


You still haven’t answered the question!

Nonetheless, I’ll answer yours: yes.

I am a left-leaning independent and have no problem with the President, regardless of party, deporting foreign visitors who engage in political activity in the US.



You're not "left-leaning" if you believe that. A core value of our country is freedom of expression, and that includes political expression. No, green card holders should not be deported for exercising their 1st Amendment rights.



Well, I’ve voted (and donated) Dem in all Presidential elections since 2008, so pretty sure I’m left-leaning. 😁

I just don’t see it as appropriate or positive for foreign visitors to influence or interfere with our internal politics, regardless of their political views.

I have no interest in Saudi nationals (for example) parading down Telegraph Ave in Berkeley calling for death to gay people.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has gotten so juvenile and silly.

All I can say is Thank God that Trump was elected and the leftists are no longer allowing terrorists and criminals to pour into the country.


Itamar Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu visited not too long ago. Please google the International Criminal Court. Thx


NP. The ICC has flushed any credibility they may have once had straight down the toilet. Thx.


Oh yes, I forgot the ICC was antisemitic. Here are few more organizations speaking out against Israel's war crimes that are also antisemitic:
Doctors without Borders
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
B'tselem
Oxfam
UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry
Médecins du Monde International Network
Center for Constitutional Rights
UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories
International Court of Justice
Save the Children
Christian Aid
Jewish Voices for Peace
International Solidarity Movement


And the term "anti-Semitic" has unfortunately lost all meaning, because Zionists cry wolf at any negative word about Israel.

There are good and awful people of all religions and all demographics. Yes, there are some vile, dangerous, inhumane Jews. There are also wonderful, peaceful, compassionate Jews. By calling everyone "anti-Semitic" the zionists are helping no one, least of all people whom they may share a faith with.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The dialogue has gotten so juvenile and silly.

All I can say is Thank God that Trump was elected and the leftists are no longer allowing terrorists and criminals to pour into the country.


Itamar Ben-Gvir and Netanyahu visited not too long ago. Please google the International Criminal Court. Thx


NP. The ICC has flushed any credibility they may have once had straight down the toilet. Thx.


Oh yes, I forgot the ICC was antisemitic. Here are few more organizations speaking out against Israel's war crimes that are also antisemitic:
Doctors without Borders
Amnesty International
Human Rights Watch
B'tselem
Oxfam
UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry
Médecins du Monde International Network
Center for Constitutional Rights
UN special rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories
International Court of Justice
Save the Children
Christian Aid
Jewish Voices for Peace
International Solidarity Movement


And the term "anti-Semitic" has unfortunately lost all meaning, because Zionists cry wolf at any negative word about Israel.

There are good and awful people of all religions and all demographics. Yes, there are some vile, dangerous, inhumane Jews. There are also wonderful, peaceful, compassionate Jews. By calling everyone "anti-Semitic" the zionists are helping no one, least of all people whom they may share a faith with.



Exactly, when you get zionists even calling Mrs. Rachel antisemitic, you can see how silly the term is. And of course, Palestinians are ethnically far more semitic than the European settler colonial zionists.
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