The Flogging of Basis

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school four years earlier. Basis may have been preferable to their in-bound middle, but Walls, Banneker, or private are perhaps preferable to high school at Basis. This isn’t rocket science.

Right, they're preferable. They're preferable *even though* BASIS has strong CAPE scores and college admits. They're preferable *even though* kids will be leaving their friends at BASIS. Even though Walls is for many people less convenient. Even though this means some families end up with one kid at BASIS and one in a DCPS school so they don't have the same school breaks and it makes the logistics harder. That people are willing to leave despite these issues, well, it tells you something about BASIS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

The fact that the majority of kids who enroll at BASIS wind up "appreciating" that it doesn't work for them and isn't well-rounded seems problematic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school four years earlier. Basis may have been preferable to their in-bound middle, but Walls, Banneker, or private are perhaps preferable to high school at Basis. This isn’t rocket science.

Right, they're preferable. They're preferable *even though* BASIS has strong CAPE scores and college admits. They're preferable *even though* kids will be leaving their friends at BASIS. Even though Walls is for many people less convenient. Even though this means some families end up with one kid at BASIS and one in a DCPS school so they don't have the same school breaks and it makes the logistics harder. That people are willing to leave despite these issues, well, it tells you something about BASIS.

Well - let’s face it. Basis is in a crappy building, very intense, scant extracurriculars, no arts or real sports…so yeah, folks that appreciated Basis for middle may decide to bounce for high school. That’s fine.

[Anonymous]

Citing BASIS' high test scores and generally pretty positive college acceptances while not talking about the attrition rate is like doing a customer satisfaction survey for a product and only asking the people who kept the product and used it for 7 years, and ignoring the majority of people who quickly ditched it or tried for years and gave up in disgust.

"100 percent of people agree, it's a great widget!!!***"

***Only people who loved it were asked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

The fact that the majority of kids who enroll at BASIS wind up "appreciating" that it doesn't work for them and isn't well-rounded seems problematic.

If they land at Walls, Banneker, or at a private, it worked out just well for them. What works in middle doesn’t necessarily work for high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

The fact that the majority of kids who enroll at BASIS wind up "appreciating" that it doesn't work for them and isn't well-rounded seems problematic.

If they land at Walls, Banneker, or at a private, it worked out just well for them. What works in middle doesn’t necessarily work for high school.

The best spin for this argument is that BASIS makes a good middle school. And, if you cut the high school grades, you could actually add 100+ students and give them that benefit going into high school. Now you're talking...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

Yup nothing to see here! People just randomly want something different. BASIS RULZ!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

The fact that the majority of kids who enroll at BASIS wind up "appreciating" that it doesn't work for them and isn't well-rounded seems problematic.

If they land at Walls, Banneker, or at a private, it worked out just well for them. What works in middle doesn’t necessarily work for high school.

And how does it work out for those who don't? They're stuck with a narrow, diminished high school experience and many of the best students are gone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

Yup nothing to see here! People just randomly want something different. BASIS RULZ!

People who want something different should pay for it at private schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

What's wrong is the idea that this in no way reflects negatively on BASIS. It's truly bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is another question: If BASIS were a private school operating under its exact current model and with its current facilities, would families pay for it?

Well, in fact BASIS DC has the same curriculum and standards of BASIS McLean, and the parents at BASIS McLean pay for that school. Same is true for the BASIS private schools in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Silicon Valley, etc.

So, the kids at BASIS DC are essentially getting a private school education for free!

And when anyone challenges them on why our taxpayer dollars should pay for it, the response is "well dcps sucks!"

yes, so, if you're not interested in improving it, go to a private school. On your own dime.

Yes - if you are not wealthy enough to afford private school you must take on the burden of “improving” DCPS even though doing so is clearly impossible within any time horizon relevant to families with kids entering middle school. This is a complete joke.

You can't "improve" a middle school by sending a smart kid there and forcing them to take easy classes with no HW and kids who are totally disengaged. That doesn't improve the school in any way. All it does it tragically hold back kids who could be learning much more, and waste 3 years of their life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

The fact that the majority of kids who enroll at BASIS wind up "appreciating" that it doesn't work for them and isn't well-rounded seems problematic.

If they land at Walls, Banneker, or at a private, it worked out just well for them. What works in middle doesn’t necessarily work for high school.

And how does it work out for those who don't? They're stuck with a narrow, diminished high school experience and many of the best students are gone.

They would only stick with Basis if it was their best remaining option. Apart from Walls, Banneker, and JR they would have easy access to practically any other DCPS high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is another question: If BASIS were a private school operating under its exact current model and with its current facilities, would families pay for it?

Well, in fact BASIS DC has the same curriculum and standards of BASIS McLean, and the parents at BASIS McLean pay for that school. Same is true for the BASIS private schools in Manhattan, Brooklyn, Silicon Valley, etc.

So, the kids at BASIS DC are essentially getting a private school education for free!

And when anyone challenges them on why our taxpayer dollars should pay for it, the response is "well dcps sucks!"

yes, so, if you're not interested in improving it, go to a private school. On your own dime.

Yes - if you are not wealthy enough to afford private school you must take on the burden of “improving” DCPS even though doing so is clearly impossible within any time horizon relevant to families with kids entering middle school. This is a complete joke.

You can't "improve" a middle school by sending a smart kid there and forcing them to take easy classes with no HW and kids who are totally disengaged. That doesn't improve the school in any way. All it does it tragically hold back kids who could be learning much more, and waste 3 years of their life.

Good people can’t disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that OP randomly started a fresh thread to complain about "flogging" is a great example of the defensive persecution complex that some BASIS parents have. The little secret is, BASIS is mid. And they know it. They don't want to move or go private so they argue about this, but it's mid. The tradeoffs might be worth it for some kids, but for many kids they aren't. And that's why so many kids bail at 9th

Or they bail at 9th because they have better high school exit options than they did at middle school. That’s not a bad result.

It's too bad BASIS's high school isn't appealing to its own students, though. You would think that having experienced the super high quality of BASIS for four years they would be wanting more, rather than having to leave their friends and transition. Because BASIS is totally so awesome right?

Or, while at the school, people can appreciate what Basis is and what it’s not and decide they want a different, more well-rounded high school experience. What’s so wrong about that.

The fact that the majority of kids who enroll at BASIS wind up "appreciating" that it doesn't work for them and isn't well-rounded seems problematic.

If they land at Walls, Banneker, or at a private, it worked out just well for them. What works in middle doesn’t necessarily work for high school.

And how does it work out for those who don't? They're stuck with a narrow, diminished high school experience and many of the best students are gone.

They would only stick with Basis if it was their best remaining option. Apart from Walls, Banneker, and JR they would have easy access to practically any other DCPS high school.

Still pretty mid though!