meanwhile of course this is how Dems respond

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some tariffs, if done right and very selectively, are fine. What Trump i doing is not fine. Get it?

I totally disagree. Selective tariffs/subsidies are totally the problem. They warp the markets. Just like allowing immigration in specific economic sectors. You end up with all the capitalists investing in those few areas, rather than more broadly and you get financial bubbles, when the "artificial" productivity is removed.

Across the board tariffs are the right thing to do, here because we want broader economic change in manufacturing. Not just EVs or Chips.

I don’t want my kids making sneakers.

Right! That's for the slave labor in other countries to do.

I hear the meat processing plants in the Midwest need workers with the immigration crackdowns. Your family should move there and start processing chickens or you should STFU criticizing people who aspire for their kids to be more than menial laborers.

As long as your paying for you kid no problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some tariffs, if done right and very selectively, are fine. What Trump i doing is not fine. Get it?

I totally disagree. Selective tariffs/subsidies are totally the problem. They warp the markets. Just like allowing immigration in specific economic sectors. You end up with all the capitalists investing in those few areas, rather than more broadly and you get financial bubbles, when the "artificial" productivity is removed.

Across the board tariffs are the right thing to do, here because we want broader economic change in manufacturing. Not just EVs or Chips.

I don’t want my kids making sneakers.

Oh, how spineless of you. Instead of saying. I want sneaker making jobs to be good jobs. You just make it worse. I just don't want people like you leading anything in the economy.

[Anonymous]

Canada, under Trudeau, used tariffs against China. Last Fall. During October.

Why do you believe all tariffs are suddenly bad, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some tariffs, if done right and very selectively, are fine. What Trump i doing is not fine. Get it?

I totally disagree. Selective tariffs/subsidies are totally the problem. They warp the markets. Just like allowing immigration in specific economic sectors. You end up with all the capitalists investing in those few areas, rather than more broadly and you get financial bubbles, when the "artificial" productivity is removed.

Across the board tariffs are the right thing to do, here because we want broader economic change in manufacturing. Not just EVs or Chips.

I don’t want my kids making sneakers.

Oh, how spineless of you. Instead of saying. I want sneaker making jobs to be good jobs. You just make it worse. I just don't want people like you leading anything in the economy.

Everything isn’t equal. You already ruined schools trying this crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Canada, under Trudeau, used tariffs against China. Last Fall. During October.

Why do you believe all tariffs are suddenly bad, OP?

I give this trolling about a 2/10. You just posted on the previous page. Too desperate. Let it simmer a little.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Canada, under Trudeau, used tariffs against China. Last Fall. During October.

Why do you believe all tariffs are suddenly bad, OP?

Tariffs have a purpose. They aren't all bad.

An effort by a single POTUS and his advisors to reshape the global marketplace in a matter of weeks is completely reckless and unnecessary. The goal of putting the US on a level playing field with the rest of the world from the standpoint of trade can be done in a manner that carries less short term risk and pain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Canada, under Trudeau, used tariffs against China. Last Fall. During October.

Why do you believe all tariffs are suddenly bad, OP?

Tariffs have a purpose. They aren't all bad.

An effort by a single POTUS and his advisors to reshape the global marketplace in a matter of weeks is completely reckless and unnecessary. The goal of putting the US on a level playing field with the rest of the world from the standpoint of trade can be done in a manner that carries less short term risk and pain.

This poster is better than most of Congress...

[Anonymous]

He is right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some tariffs, if done right and very selectively, are fine. What Trump i doing is not fine. Get it?

I totally disagree. Selective tariffs/subsidies are totally the problem. They warp the markets. Just like allowing immigration in specific economic sectors. You end up with all the capitalists investing in those few areas, rather than more broadly and you get financial bubbles, when the "artificial" productivity is removed.

Across the board tariffs are the right thing to do, here because we want broader economic change in manufacturing. Not just EVs or Chips.

Right. Why make a solution that fits the problem when you can just smash the global economy in one big shot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some tariffs, if done right and very selectively, are fine. What Trump i doing is not fine. Get it?

I totally disagree. Selective tariffs/subsidies are totally the problem. They warp the markets. Just like allowing immigration in specific economic sectors. You end up with all the capitalists investing in those few areas, rather than more broadly and you get financial bubbles, when the "artificial" productivity is removed.

Across the board tariffs are the right thing to do, here because we want broader economic change in manufacturing. Not just EVs or Chips.

I don’t want my kids making sneakers.

Oh, how spineless of you. Instead of saying. I want sneaker making jobs to be good jobs. You just make it worse. I just don't want people like you leading anything in the economy.

Cute of you to think that any manufacturing jobs will employ humans at all in ten years. The line is that factories will need humans to fix robots. The median IQ in this country is 100. Half the country can’t be trained for highly technical jobs. But they can make Molotov Cocktails. You have to occupy the least educated or you get revolution and chaos.

[Anonymous]

Didn’t Biden put tariffs on Russia ?

[Anonymous]

Western PA political posturing wonk. They’re not reciprocal tariffs. A middle school science project board created for a President with a middle schooler’s brain to present to the world. No dis to middle schoolers.

Trump does not understand that trade surpluses will never happen. He only sees the word deficit, but he does not understand what it means. I bet most people still don’t understand. Not because they’re stupid, they just can’t keep up with the whiplash idiocy every.fking.day. There’s no coming back from this. Pee Wee PA guy had his 30 seconds of fame.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Didn’t Biden put tariffs on Russia ?

Sanctions. Trump didn’t tariff Russia. 🐧

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some tariffs, if done right and very selectively, are fine. What Trump i doing is not fine. Get it?

I totally disagree. Selective tariffs/subsidies are totally the problem. They warp the markets. Just like allowing immigration in specific economic sectors. You end up with all the capitalists investing in those few areas, rather than more broadly and you get financial bubbles, when the "artificial" productivity is removed.

Across the board tariffs are the right thing to do, here because we want broader economic change in manufacturing. Not just EVs or Chips.

I don’t want my kids making sneakers.

Oh, how spineless of you. Instead of saying. I want sneaker making jobs to be good jobs. You just make it worse. I just don't want people like you leading anything in the economy.

Cute of you to think that any manufacturing jobs will employ humans at all in ten years. The line is that factories will need humans to fix robots. The median IQ in this country is 100. Half the country can’t be trained for highly technical jobs. But they can make Molotov Cocktails. You have to occupy the least educated or you get revolution and chaos.

So, which is it, you need all that labor in China and India or you don't need any labor at all? Democrats they just don't give it to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are ALL of you this miserably bad at comms? You think TODAY when the market is melting down and people are finally turning against Trump because of tariffs - TODAY is the day to be like "but akshully in some cases we LIKE tariffs dur dur nuance dur."

NO! WHY? Today is the day to cry from the rooftops that Trump just made every person in America - except himself - poorer!

+1

Dems can be too smart for our own good. Somehow Dems manage to underestimate and overestimate the general public at the same time. Leave the nuanced communications for another day. Strike an emotional chord when the opportunity arises.

The emotional chord the Dems need to strike and working class Dems, especially in the Blue Wall, are who you need to win back. What you myopic DCUMers don’t realize is that these people are pro Union and actually like tariffs. I remember a day when Dems were pro Union, pro tariff, and wanted to bring jobs back to the US. The country club Dems who worship Liz Cheney on here are against all of that and are just in their feelings because their 401ks are down. These aren’t the people Dems need to win over to win national elections. They need to win back the union voters in Wisconsin and Michigan, who could care less about your brokerage accounts sinking by 10%.