Another legal resident threatened with deportation over protected speech

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This time a South Korean born woman who participated in protests at Columbia but was not a leader. She’s been here since age 7. Hardly a security threat.

When will this stop? What do we need to do??

Protest in masses in the streets. Shutdown businesses. Tell your Congresspersons you are seeking out their replacements now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Minor point in scheme of things, but this kind of thing is causing young men who support Trump some concern. I know several. They think these students should just be left alone and do get the concept the the ability to protest is fundamental in this country.

Did they not notice the multiple times Trump told them he's fundamentally an authoritarian who hates democracy?

Unfortunately not really. But there is hope. …

[Anonymous]

Another student has been targeted for deportation, Rumeysa Ozturk.

She wrote an op-ed in her student paper at Tufts that was critical of the university's ties to companies in Israel.

I guess that's enough to get you deported now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/26/trump-presidency-news/#link-IRX6I6R3WNFKFC43JWLOI656WY

Here is her op ed: https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another student has been targeted for deportation, Rumeysa Ozturk.

She wrote an op-ed in her student paper at Tufts that was critical of the university's ties to companies in Israel.

I guess that's enough to get you deported now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/26/trump-presidency-news/#link-IRX6I6R3WNFKFC43JWLOI656WY

Here is her op ed: https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

FACISTS!

[Anonymous]

The video of her abduction is terrifying

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3llccznpbvc2r

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video of her abduction is terrifying

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3llccznpbvc2r

Awful

What would happen if a "good guy with a gun" came to her defense in what looks like for all intents and purposes a human trafficking kidnapping,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video of her abduction is terrifying

https://bsky.app/profile/paleofuture.bsky.social/post/3llccznpbvc2r

Awful

What would happen if a "good guy with a gun" came to her defense in what looks like for all intents and purposes a human trafficking kidnapping,

I watched the video. I didn't see any identifying markers on them indicating they were ICE. Kind of scary. Bunch of dudes with masks coming to take away. How would a person know if they are really ICE or not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

She was arrested and then released. That's not grounds for deportation in normal times, certainly not of a permanent resident. There's no "visa" to revoke. This is a HS valedictorian Barnard student sticking up for people getting killed in Gaza.

She was trespassing after her group was warned to leave the private property. Perhaps under the prior regime the issue would not have been pursued to the highest extent of the law, but (a) regime change happened and (b) she is still inside the statute of limitations.

Don’t commit crimes if you are unwilling to face the consequences (whether you’re a J6 rioter or a college kid).

Or is your point that a person can be above the law because she was a high school valedictorian advocating for a favored political cause? Surely you see the problem with that.

Perhaps the right is a cult or cannot be reasoned with. But the “no mercy” crowd sure does care about context all of a sudden.

Well said.

Context matters. Equating college students conducting sit-ins to Jan. 6 rioters breaking into the Capitol, walking around, destroying millions of dollars of public property, pooping on government property, and injuring LEOs is disingenuous. Period.

She was part of a group that was using intentional disruption of the educational process (including seizing of buildings) in order to get the Columbia administration to accede to their political demands (BDS of Israel in protest of the Gaza war). In other words, she was disrupting the constitutional rights of others to achieve her political goals.

I take no issue with her political goals. She has the right to them. But the moment she engaged in a crime for her political goals, regardless of intent or method, she opened herself up to sanction by the state. And given her revocable residency status, her stakes were higher than they were for others.

I think she made the same fundamental mistake the J6 rioters made. Coming out of the BLM protests and property destruction, including at locations like the Portland, Ore. federal court building, I think that most of the J6 rioters on some level thought they would get the same or similar treatment as the BLM rioters. The J6 rioters learned that the state can actually bring the hammer down on your head. Likewise, she probably assumed that she was like other sit-in protestors in the past and would get off with a slap on wrist. But it turns out the state can actually bring a hammer down on your head.

I do think it is rich that the same “no mercy” crowd is now freaking out over this and “context matters.” How very convenient that context matters and leniency should be the goal when you happen to find the accuse politically sympathetic.

Protesting is not a crime

And I wish the police had turned their guns on the Jan 6 lot as they would have if they were black breaking into a federal building.

That they weren't shot is showing mercy

The only person that died on J6 was indeed done by police that turned their guns on people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

She was arrested and then released. That's not grounds for deportation in normal times, certainly not of a permanent resident. There's no "visa" to revoke. This is a HS valedictorian Barnard student sticking up for people getting killed in Gaza.

She was trespassing after her group was warned to leave the private property. Perhaps under the prior regime the issue would not have been pursued to the highest extent of the law, but (a) regime change happened and (b) she is still inside the statute of limitations.

Don’t commit crimes if you are unwilling to face the consequences (whether you’re a J6 rioter or a college kid).

Or is your point that a person can be above the law because she was a high school valedictorian advocating for a favored political cause? Surely you see the problem with that.

Perhaps the right is a cult or cannot be reasoned with. But the “no mercy” crowd sure does care about context all of a sudden.

Well said.

Context matters. Equating college students conducting sit-ins to Jan. 6 rioters breaking into the Capitol, walking around, destroying millions of dollars of public property, pooping on government property, and injuring LEOs is disingenuous. Period.

She was part of a group that was using intentional disruption of the educational process (including seizing of buildings) in order to get the Columbia administration to accede to their political demands (BDS of Israel in protest of the Gaza war). In other words, she was disrupting the constitutional rights of others to achieve her political goals.

I take no issue with her political goals. She has the right to them. But the moment she engaged in a crime for her political goals, regardless of intent or method, she opened herself up to sanction by the state. And given her revocable residency status, her stakes were higher than they were for others.

I think she made the same fundamental mistake the J6 rioters made. Coming out of the BLM protests and property destruction, including at locations like the Portland, Ore. federal court building, I think that most of the J6 rioters on some level thought they would get the same or similar treatment as the BLM rioters. The J6 rioters learned that the state can actually bring the hammer down on your head. Likewise, she probably assumed that she was like other sit-in protestors in the past and would get off with a slap on wrist. But it turns out the state can actually bring a hammer down on your head.

I do think it is rich that the same “no mercy” crowd is now freaking out over this and “context matters.” How very convenient that context matters and leniency should be the goal when you happen to find the accuse politically sympathetic.

Protesting is not a crime

And I wish the police had turned their guns on the Jan 6 lot as they would have if they were black breaking into a federal building.

That they weren't shot is showing mercy

The only person that died on J6 was indeed done by police that turned their guns on people.

Shut up
It should have been the whole lot of them lying on the ground with no police harmed in any way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another student has been targeted for deportation, Rumeysa Ozturk.

She wrote an op-ed in her student paper at Tufts that was critical of the university's ties to companies in Israel.

I guess that's enough to get you deported now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/26/trump-presidency-news/#link-IRX6I6R3WNFKFC43JWLOI656WY

Here is her op ed: https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

This is absolutely outrageous and completely unAmerican. I read the oped which was co-authored by three other students so not written by the student in question exclusively. It was measured and respectful. Since when is supporting the humanity of the Palestinian people a crime?

I worked with international students for years and can tell you that this will have a chilling effect on foreign student applications to study in the US. Many of these students come from countries that do not have freedom of the press or free speech. One of the reasons they want to study here is for the free exchange of ideas. So now we’re basically telling them that we’re just like Turkey or China?

WTF people?!!! Wake up!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This time a South Korean born woman who participated in protests at Columbia but was not a leader. She’s been here since age 7. Hardly a security threat.

When will this stop? What do we need to do??

You are the QAnon of the far left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This time a South Korean born woman who participated in protests at Columbia but was not a leader. She’s been here since age 7. Hardly a security threat.

When will this stop? What do we need to do??

You are the QAnon of the far left.

DP. And you are an un-American fascist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

You're equating breaking into the Capitol--the seat of the US government--with a sit-in on a college campus?

I’m comparing trespassing to trespassing and the legal consequences for that crime.

J6= treason
Sit in = trespassing

It is stupid Fox News & MAGA logic to say they are the same.

[Anonymous]

If you have green card, you have very flexible rights. It’s in the law. What you should do is tell every green card holder that. Or encourage them to learn more about their status under the law.

Protected Speech has ALWAYS been flexible
that’s why we debate them in many many cases before courts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another student has been targeted for deportation, Rumeysa Ozturk.

She wrote an op-ed in her student paper at Tufts that was critical of the university's ties to companies in Israel.

I guess that's enough to get you deported now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/26/trump-presidency-news/#link-IRX6I6R3WNFKFC43JWLOI656WY

Here is her op ed: https://www.tuftsdaily.com/article/2024/03/4ftk27sm6jkj

This is absolutely outrageous and completely unAmerican. I read the oped which was co-authored by three other students so not written by the student in question exclusively. It was measured and respectful. Since when is supporting the humanity of the Palestinian people a crime?

I worked with international students for years and can tell you that this will have a chilling effect on foreign student applications to study in the US. Many of these students come from countries that do not have freedom of the press or free speech. One of the reasons they want to study here is for the free exchange of ideas. So now we’re basically telling them that we’re just like Turkey or China?

WTF people?!!! Wake up!

The chilling effect on foreign student applications is what they want. I can see where one might say that US universities are allowing too many non-US students in and training our competition. Fair point. But……MAGA wants it to go back to the 1950s where almost all colleges, especially Ivy League type, were mostly filled with white men who went to private schools.
Except, this isn’t 1950. What will happen is the best of them will go to Switzerland, France, or China. It will make it harder to compete technologically wise in 30 years when the best of these kids make discoveries. Obviously, some US students will make discoveries……provided the “brain drain” doesn’t now go OUT of the US due to a fascist state.