Another legal resident threatened with deportation over protected speech

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when citizens are similarly treated, I would take it more seriously

its hard to say as police authorities (enforcement) does not always share the evidence they have

they do not have to
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Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.


She was arrested and then released. That's not grounds for deportation in normal times, certainly not of a permanent resident. There's no "visa" to revoke. This is a HS valedictorian Barnard student sticking up for people getting killed in Gaza.





She was trespassing after her group was warned to leave the private property. Perhaps under the prior regime the issue would not have been pursued to the highest extent of the law, but (a) regime change happened and (b) she is still inside the statute of limitations.

Don’t commit crimes if you are unwilling to face the consequences (whether you’re a J6 rioter or a college kid).

Or is your point that a person can be above the law because she was a high school valedictorian advocating for a favored political cause? Surely you see the problem with that.

Perhaps the right is a cult or cannot be reasoned with. But the “no mercy” crowd sure does care about context all of a sudden.


Well said.


Context matters. Equating college students conducting sit-ins to Jan. 6 rioters breaking into the Capitol, walking around, destroying millions of dollars of public property, pooping on government property, and injuring LEOs is disingenuous. Period.


She was part of a group that was using intentional disruption of the educational process (including seizing of buildings) in order to get the Columbia administration to accede to their political demands (BDS of Israel in protest of the Gaza war). In other words, she was disrupting the constitutional rights of others to achieve her political goals.

I take no issue with her political goals. She has the right to them. But the moment she engaged in a crime for her political goals, regardless of intent or method, she opened herself up to sanction by the state. And given her revocable residency status, her stakes were higher than they were for others.

I think she made the same fundamental mistake the J6 rioters made. Coming out of the BLM protests and property destruction, including at locations like the Portland, Ore. federal court building, I think that most of the J6 rioters on some level thought they would get the same or similar treatment as the BLM rioters. The J6 rioters learned that the state can actually bring the hammer down on your head. Likewise, she probably assumed that she was like other sit-in protestors in the past and would get off with a slap on wrist. But it turns out the state can actually bring a hammer down on your head.

I do think it is rich that the same “no mercy” crowd is now freaking out over this and “context matters.” How very convenient that context matters and leniency should be the goal when you happen to find the accuse politically sympathetic.



Protesting is not a crime

And I wish the police had turned their guns on the Jan 6 lot as they would have if they were black breaking into a federal building.

That they weren't shot is showing mercy


The only person that died on J6 was indeed done by police that turned their guns on people.


Not true at all.
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Anonymous wrote:when citizens are similarly treated, I would take it more seriously

its hard to say as police authorities (enforcement) does not always share the evidence they have

they do not have to


When masked people are able to abduct you (a citizen) in broad daylight, what makes you think you will be allowed to say anything without the price being too high.

Trump knows his base. He'll wait a while til he starts abducting the Ukrainian activists. The sight of blond blue-eyed white people being taken might hit too close.
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“Deportation” does not exist, OP.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.


You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.


You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.


And what do you think is going to happen in a few years when the Trump admin is gone? Because if we go by your logic, then I say the next administration declares MAGA a domestic terror group and we start rounding up all the red hats. Ship 'em off to El Salvador.

That's why I've said Trump's tactic of revenge politics is such a slippery slope. You want ID for voting (which, I'm sorry, but doesn't every state already have this)? Ok. We'll make a rule in a few years that you have to be able to pass a basic civics test to vote. Or we'll make a rule that no one on Medicaid can vote. There goes like 65% of the GOP votes.

See... revenge politics is NOT a good strategy.
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