Another legal resident threatened with deportation over protected speech

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a BBC link to the story:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70wprgper4o

So, if I’m reading this right, this woman’s “crimes” involve protesting the expulsions of students who were linked to “pro-Palestinian “ protests. So multiple freedom of speech issues stacked on top of each other. This is intended to send a chilling message. People who protest the unfair treatment of other protesters will be severely punished by this administration — even as the DEI/DUI brigade reveal classified secrets while breaking the most basic rules.

Even if the claims she committed no crimes are true-
to have students protesting expulsions of Jew haters, would make it harder for universities to get foreign students.
This is damaging to America's foreign policy.
The Secretary of State has authority to pull visas in this situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

You're equating breaking into the Capitol--the seat of the US government--with a sit-in on a college campus?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

You're equating breaking into the Capitol--the seat of the US government--with a sit-in on a college campus?

MAGA logic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

You're equating breaking into the Capitol--the seat of the US government--with a sit-in on a college campus?

I’m comparing trespassing to trespassing and the legal consequences for that crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

MAGA really can't be reasoned with, you guys are just that far gone in your cult, or intentionally (or maybe unintentionally) stupid.

Peacefully sitting in on campus, a private campus nonetheless (Barnard is also part of Columbia, which the person is a student in) is not the same thing as violently trying to overthrow the election, breaking in, and violently assaulting police officers. If you don't understand the distinction, you are too far gone/stupid to help at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a BBC link to the story:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70wprgper4o

So, if I’m reading this right, this woman’s “crimes” involve protesting the expulsions of students who were linked to “pro-Palestinian “ protests. So multiple freedom of speech issues stacked on top of each other. This is intended to send a chilling message. People who protest the unfair treatment of other protesters will be severely punished by this administration — even as the DEI/DUI brigade reveal classified secrets while breaking the most basic rules.

Even if the claims she committed no crimes are true-
to have students protesting expulsions of Jew haters, would make it harder for universities to get foreign students.
This is damaging to America's foreign policy.
The Secretary of State has authority to pull visas in this situation.

PSA: Trump's admin pulling funding and threatening foreign and legal residents for free speech is making it harder for universities to get foreign students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

EXACTLY.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

She was arrested and then released. That's not grounds for deportation in normal times, certainly not of a permanent resident. There's no "visa" to revoke. This is a HS valedictorian Barnard student sticking up for people getting killed in Gaza.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

You're equating breaking into the Capitol--the seat of the US government--with a sit-in on a college campus?

I’m comparing trespassing to trespassing and the legal consequences for that crime.

Every jurisdiction does not have the exact same legal consequences for trespassing. Factors such as intent, type of property, prior offenses, etc come in to play when assessing whether or not and how to prosecute trespassing. You must know that, right? I mean, you don't have to have a law degree to figure that out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here’s a BBC link to the story:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70wprgper4o

So, if I’m reading this right, this woman’s “crimes” involve protesting the expulsions of students who were linked to “pro-Palestinian “ protests. So multiple freedom of speech issues stacked on top of each other. This is intended to send a chilling message. People who protest the unfair treatment of other protesters will be severely punished by this administration — even as the DEI/DUI brigade reveal classified secrets while breaking the most basic rules.

Even if the claims she committed no crimes are true-
to have students protesting expulsions of Jew haters, would make it harder for universities to get foreign students.
This is damaging to America's foreign policy.
The Secretary of State has authority to pull visas in this situation.

PSA: Trump's admin pulling funding and threatening foreign and legal residents for free speech is making it harder for universities to get foreign students.

Columbia U will never want for students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

She was arrested and then released. That's not grounds for deportation in normal times, certainly not of a permanent resident. There's no "visa" to revoke. This is a HS valedictorian Barnard student sticking up for people getting killed in Gaza.

She was trespassing after her group was warned to leave the private property. Perhaps under the prior regime the issue would not have been pursued to the highest extent of the law, but (a) regime change happened and (b) she is still inside the statute of limitations.

Don’t commit crimes if you are unwilling to face the consequences (whether you’re a J6 rioter or a college kid).

Or is your point that a person can be above the law because she was a high school valedictorian advocating for a favored political cause? Surely you see the problem with that.

Perhaps the right is a cult or cannot be reasoned with. But the “no mercy” crowd sure does care about context all of a sudden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

She was arrested and then released. That's not grounds for deportation in normal times, certainly not of a permanent resident. There's no "visa" to revoke. This is a HS valedictorian Barnard student sticking up for people getting killed in Gaza.

She was trespassing after her group was warned to leave the private property. Perhaps under the prior regime the issue would not have been pursued to the highest extent of the law, but (a) regime change happened and (b) she is still inside the statute of limitations.

Don’t commit crimes if you are unwilling to face the consequences (whether you’re a J6 rioter or a college kid).

Or is your point that a person can be above the law because she was a high school valedictorian advocating for a favored political cause? Surely you see the problem with that.

Perhaps the right is a cult or cannot be reasoned with. But the “no mercy” crowd sure does care about context all of a sudden.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP, is your point that she has been here since age 7 so she is above the law?

An ABC report states she was arrested for a sit in (trespassing) at Barnard on March 5, 2024.

She isn’t being sought for her speech but for her action. If you believe that trespassing is not a crime, then I’ve got news for you. I hate that people simply accept media framing (whether Fox News or NYT) and do not think critically.

If you think facing repercussions for trespassing harms free speech, well just wait until you hear about the January 6 rioters. It sucks, but don’t do the crime if you aren’t willing to face the consequences.

You know that those pedo trailer were pardoned, right?

And trespassing doesn’t call for deportation?

This is state sanctioned terrorism meant to suppress free speech.

You know your side wanted absolutely no mercy for the Jan 6 rioters, right?

Kind of sucks now that the other side holds prosecutorial discretion, doesn’t it?

You guys set the rules of engagement. Your side had the chance to show leniency when you were in control. Little late to make the case for it now.

Oh yeah because peacefully protesting a foreign war is totally the same thing as violently rioting at the Capitol, assaulting police officers, breaking and eterting, and trying to over turn an election process. Totally the same thing.

What she did was peaceful and protected speech. What the J6s did was violent and akin to treason.

LOL. A little over half the J6 defendant were charged with trespassing or interfering with official acts. And you wanted no mercy for them.

Columbia gets about $1 billion a day from the federal government. Assuming 50 working weeks per year and 5 working days per week that comes out to $4 million per day. She and her fellow trespassers intentionally sought to disrupt the education process through trespassing in prefer to achieve their political goals at great cost to the university, its students and the taxpayers. Not for nothing, the arrests at .

If you don’t want to face consequences, don’t commit crimes (whether you are a J6 rioter or Columbia undergrad). Sorry, you guys set the rules of engagement when you held the power.

You're equating breaking into the Capitol--the seat of the US government--with a sit-in on a college campus?

I’m comparing trespassing to trespassing and the legal consequences for that crime.

Every jurisdiction does not have the exact same legal consequences for trespassing. Factors such as intent, type of property, prior offenses, etc come in to play when assessing whether or not and how to prosecute trespassing. You must know that, right? I mean, you don't have to have a law degree to figure that out.

And regardless of how the local authorities treat a crime, the federal authorities can take a different position vis-a-vis immigration status. You must know that, right?

A person on some sort of revocable status should probably avoid protesting that involves disruption of business/education and that is adjacent to some racially charged behavior.

She could have very easily exercised her free speech rights without trying to force Columbia to agree to her political demands through disruption of the campus and education process. Heck, she was a 21-year-old Ivy League student. She didn’t need a law degree to figure this out.