If you are avoiding Amazon and Target, where are you buying what?

[Anonymous]

OP. Thanks for all the suggestions and links. Sounds like I may need to join Costco.

For me, avoiding Amazon and Walmart are because of poor worker practices. Target is because of the DEI pullback.

I understand that short boycotts don't typically make much of an impact, but I believe if the collective changes their spending patterns they can make a statement. And yes, in terms of the political climate, we need to do much more, but this can be one of many things we do, to whatever extent we do or don't see fit.

[Anonymous]

This is how we did things before Amazon. #oldlady

[Anonymous]

Product World USA - the owner is here in Arlington VA: https://productworldusa.com/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP. Thanks for all the suggestions and links. Sounds like I may need to join Costco.

For me, avoiding Amazon and Walmart are because of poor worker practices. Target is because of the DEI pullback.

I understand that short boycotts don't typically make much of an impact, but I believe if the collective changes their spending patterns they can make a statement. And yes, in terms of the political climate, we need to do much more, but this can be one of many things we do, to whatever extent we do or don't see fit.

Many workers are happy working for both companies. You are hurting the workers, not the company. They will lose their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The few items that I purchased exclusively from Target, I now get direct from the brand (e.g., Yankee Candle store at Columbia Mall). I now buy all my groceries from Giant instead of purchasing some items from Giant and Target. I will need paper towels and laundry detergent soon, so I may get it from Giant, which will cost more. I might also get a Costco card again.

I am not budging on shopping at Target. I want them to go out of business for the bs.

How is giant better?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Walmart?

I boycotted them from the start. They moved into smalltown rural areas, offered low prices, put the local stores out of business, and raised their prices.

So, no, I won't shop there.

When has Walmart raised prices? Their net profit margin is under 3%!

This has literally been Walmart's process from the start. The PP gave an accurate description of what they did initially to become the big box giant they currently are.
They also have for long refused to give people 40+ hours a week. They prefer to keep people under 32 (or whatever is legal for not having to provide healthcare benefits). Target does not/has not systematically done that.

Even now, I will still choose Target over Walmart any day

Re: prices, Saying it confidently doesn’t make it true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Product World USA - the owner is here in Arlington VA: https://productworldusa.com/

Looks Trumpy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. Thanks for all the suggestions and links. Sounds like I may need to join Costco.

For me, avoiding Amazon and Walmart are because of poor worker practices. Target is because of the DEI pullback.

I understand that short boycotts don't typically make much of an impact, but I believe if the collective changes their spending patterns they can make a statement. And yes, in terms of the political climate, we need to do much more, but this can be one of many things we do, to whatever extent we do or don't see fit.

Many workers are happy working for both companies. You are hurting the workers, not the company. They will lose their jobs.

Those workers can blame the leadership at those companies. I'm not spending my money there anymore.

[Anonymous]

It must be exhausting to be so outraged so often that you don't know where to shop.

[Anonymous]

I gave up trying to boycott anything. For example, Amazon is just too convenient and the prices and quick delivery is too good to waste my time trying to find alternatives. My piddling little purchases are not going to make any difference anyway. I think some folks are making their lives more difficult for no reason tbh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't proactively support small businesses even if I like the notion of small businesses because they're just not that great. They are more expensive and don't have the same stock. And some are certainly very ideological (looking at you Penzys).

Amazon is wonderful. Target is convenient. The only person who cares if you try to make a moral argument out of avoiding Amazon and Target is you and you alone, no one else. Do what you want but you aren't budging the needle except you will spend more money by trying to avoid the big boxes and Amazon, and it was another person on another thread who also pointed out it's more ecologically friendly and sustainable to stick with Amazon and deliveries than going to 20 different stores in your car.

Beg to differ:

Teslas is down 40%
Target sales are down 3% since Jan, stock is down

You don’t think Target and Tesla care? You do you but I’m spending MY money where I want and with businesses who aren’t groveling at the feet of facists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It must be exhausting to be so outraged so often that you don't know where to shop.

One person doesn’t make a difference but groups of people do. Look at Tesla & Target as just 2 examples and look how Costco sales and stock have soared.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It must be exhausting to be so outraged so often that you don't know where to shop.

One person doesn’t make a difference but groups of people do. Look at Tesla & Target as just 2 examples and look how Costco sales and stock have soared.

It's not exhausting at all to just....not shop at these stores. And I am spending so. much. less. money. because turns out, I don't need most of the crap I was buying on Prime or at Target. Will there come a time where I need something from one of those stores? Sure. But I have drastically reduced my spending online and that feels great for a number of reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't proactively support small businesses even if I like the notion of small businesses because they're just not that great. They are more expensive and don't have the same stock. And some are certainly very ideological (looking at you Penzys).

Amazon is wonderful. Target is convenient. The only person who cares if you try to make a moral argument out of avoiding Amazon and Target is you and you alone, no one else. Do what you want but you aren't budging the needle except you will spend more money by trying to avoid the big boxes and Amazon, and it was another person on another thread who also pointed out it's more ecologically friendly and sustainable to stick with Amazon and deliveries than going to 20 different stores in your car.

Beg to differ:

Teslas is down 40%
Target sales are down 3% since Jan, stock is down

You don’t think Target and Tesla care? You do you but I’m spending MY money where I want and with businesses who aren’t groveling at the feet of facists.

Tesla is an intriguing and narrow example to cite, the product was far more popular among the "left" than the "right" so it was prone to consumer shifts in a way mass retailers are not. A comparable would be Budweiser, it's a product more popular among the "right" than the "left" so the boycott had real impact. And it doesn't help that Tesla stock was already enormously overvalued as any market guru would have told you even before Musk came on the scene. Unlike Budweiser, given Musk's history in reviving Twitter's value I wouldn't rule out a big Tesla boom in a year or two.

Your boycott is going to garner nothing more than a slow clap because reasons you cite are actually very popular among most Americans, such as the DEI rollbacks. You are in the distinct minority. Both Amazon and Target and Walmart also hire large numbers of working Americans who'd struggle otherwise to find other jobs. If you knew anything about Amazon, while their corporate culture is demanding and works people hard, those who who are able to perform are rewarded greatly. A lot of success stories of employees starting from the bottom and working their way up with determination and grit.

You can do what you want, the tradeoff is that you will spend more money and be more inconvenienced by avoiding Amazon and popular big retailers who have enormous scales of efficiency they pass on consumers. Virtue signaling is a luxury, and it's your decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't proactively support small businesses even if I like the notion of small businesses because they're just not that great. They are more expensive and don't have the same stock. And some are certainly very ideological (looking at you Penzys).

Amazon is wonderful. Target is convenient. The only person who cares if you try to make a moral argument out of avoiding Amazon and Target is you and you alone, no one else. Do what you want but you aren't budging the needle except you will spend more money by trying to avoid the big boxes and Amazon, and it was another person on another thread who also pointed out it's more ecologically friendly and sustainable to stick with Amazon and deliveries than going to 20 different stores in your car.

Beg to differ:

Teslas is down 40%
Target sales are down 3% since Jan, stock is down

You don’t think Target and Tesla care? You do you but I’m spending MY money where I want and with businesses who aren’t groveling at the feet of facists.

Tesla is an intriguing and narrow example to cite, the product was far more popular among the "left" than the "right" so it was prone to consumer shifts in a way mass retailers are not. A comparable would be Budweiser, it's a product more popular among the "right" than the "left" so the boycott had real impact. And it doesn't help that Tesla stock was already enormously overvalued as any market guru would have told you even before Musk came on the scene. Unlike Budweiser, given Musk's history in reviving Twitter's value I wouldn't rule out a big Tesla boom in a year or two.

Your boycott is going to garner nothing more than a slow clap because reasons you cite are actually very popular among most Americans, such as the DEI rollbacks. You are in the distinct minority. Both Amazon and Target and Walmart also hire large numbers of working Americans who'd struggle otherwise to find other jobs. If you knew anything about Amazon, while their corporate culture is demanding and works people hard, those who who are able to perform are rewarded greatly. A lot of success stories of employees starting from the bottom and working their way up with determination and grit.

You can do what you want, the tradeoff is that you will spend more money and be more inconvenienced by avoiding Amazon and popular big retailers who have enormous scales of efficiency they pass on consumers. Virtue signaling is a luxury, and it's your decision.

Still a no for Target, Walmart and working on Amazon. I’m spending less money. Amazon and Walmart are modern day plantations.