Should the democrats split between a Democratic and Progressive party?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No, but Dems and Reps are splitting big time

Dems got unmarried women, renters, giv workers, black folks, trans folks, childless, queer folks, etc. Reps got the fellas, the marrieds, the parents, the homeowners , the private sector workers, and whatnot

Different strokes for different folks

Not really. Each side has their crazies while the middle is swinging back and forth trying to run away from them.

This. Each election we basically get to choose which of the two crazy sides is less crazy. It is no fun.

Jesus Christ 🙄 What actual policy stances do progressives have that is so crazy? I don't mean the ridiculous social stuff that gets attributed to progressives. That crap is actually just standard liberal lipservice. Progressives are about class politics, protecting the working class average American from the capital class seeking to exploit them.

So tell me, what actual progressive policies do you find just too far out there as to compare us to frickin MAGA. Raising the minimum wage? Supporting strong unions? Demilitarizing the police? Stopping the profit motive from ruining everything good about this country?

I'm so tired of this anti progressive crap. Rejecting progressive policies in favor of corporate donors is exactly why Democrats can't win an election. You all are entirely out of touch with what the majority of voters want and need. Fascism is capitalism in decay. Progressivism IS the answer.

2020-2024, there were next to zero progressive policies implemented. Name one that you can hang your hat on. Last one vaguely progressive I can think of was Obamacare. I'm so glad Trump removed the mandate on those insanely expensive policies.

Green New Deal says what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Progressives brought us Muslims who didn't want to vote for Biden because of Gaza

Progressives brought us blacks who didn't want to vote for Kamala because the didn't think she was black enough

Progressives brought us deranged GOP attack ads accusing every Democrat of wanting men to take over womens sports and bathrooms

I'd respect progressives a lot more if they actually focused first and foremost on things that will win elections in purple and red districts, like better wages, healthy affordable groceries, affordable housing, environmental protection, safe drugs and so on. Not to mention, first and foremost fixing campaign finance and election laws so that oligarchs like Musk can no longer buy themselves a President.

Save all that other crap for another day.

You are a f’ing nut job. Progressives are the only one holding the line against Schumer and his buddies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Progressives brought us Muslims who didn't want to vote for Biden because of Gaza

Progressives brought us blacks who didn't want to vote for Kamala because the didn't think she was black enough

Progressives brought us deranged GOP attack ads accusing every Democrat of wanting men to take over womens sports and bathrooms

I'd respect progressives a lot more if they actually focused first and foremost on things that will win elections in purple and red districts, like better wages, healthy affordable groceries, affordable housing, environmental protection, safe drugs and so on. Not to mention, first and foremost fixing campaign finance and election laws so that oligarchs like Musk can no longer buy themselves a President.

Save all that other crap for another day.

You are a f’ing nut job. Progressives are the only one holding the line against Schumer and his buddies.

I was going to say that they sound crazy. Black people voted in a supermajority for Kamala Harris, as they continuously vote for the Democratic Party.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Modern Progressives are mirror of MAGA, politically.
Their political philosophy is hating the US government for its sins and wanting to destroy it, with no interest in the compromise required to run a nation of disagreeing people under a balance of power. Until they learn to compromise, they will only be complicit in the MAGA razing of the nation.

Progressives are against the establishment interests, which the democratic party adores. Democratic Party is so scared to critique billionaires that they need to blame trans ideology on progressives. Progressive policy is popular, democratic policy is Republican Policy 4 years late. It was Kamala who was trying to out-deport trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Progressives cannot stand liberals and do not agree at all with the liberals on how the party should run and what its agenda should look like.
Liberals blame progressive ideologies and policies for the 2024 loss and the turn towards an unpopular Democratic Party. Liberals want to move further right.
Progressive policies are widely supported when you do not mention they are progressive suggestions.
These are two different parties under a tent so wide it looks like the horizon.
Why is it that these two parties do not split?

Yes. Go ahead.
Magas were successful.

[Anonymous]

Remember when the establishment dems had the power to investigate SCOTUS and refused to investigate?

Remember Garland and his failure to investigate jan6?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:No, but Dems and Reps are splitting big time

Dems got unmarried women, renters, giv workers, black folks, trans folks, childless, queer folks, etc. Reps got the fellas, the marrieds, the parents, the homeowners , the private sector workers, and whatnot

Different strokes for different folks

Not really. Each side has their crazies while the middle is swinging back and forth trying to run away from them.

This. Each election we basically get to choose which of the two crazy sides is less crazy. It is no fun.

Jesus Christ 🙄 What actual policy stances do progressives have that is so crazy? I don't mean the ridiculous social stuff that gets attributed to progressives. That crap is actually just standard liberal lipservice. Progressives are about class politics, protecting the working class average American from the capital class seeking to exploit them.

So tell me, what actual progressive policies do you find just too far out there as to compare us to frickin MAGA. Raising the minimum wage? Supporting strong unions? Demilitarizing the police? Stopping the profit motive from ruining everything good about this country?

I'm so tired of this anti progressive crap. Rejecting progressive policies in favor of corporate donors is exactly why Democrats can't win an election. You all are entirely out of touch with what the majority of voters want and need. Fascism is capitalism in decay. Progressivism IS the answer.

2020-2024, there were next to zero progressive policies implemented. Name one that you can hang your hat on. Last one vaguely progressive I can think of was Obamacare. I'm so glad Trump removed the mandate on those insanely expensive policies.

Green New Deal says what?

If a tree falls in the forest and there isn't anyone there to hear it, does it make a sound?

[Anonymous]

I would vote for a more moderate and centrist Constitutional Party. As in a party committed to the Constitution and the rule of law - real law, not EOs recording petulant revenge fantasies - combined with moderate social progressivism and benefits entitlements share well administered and less bureaucratic.

[Anonymous]

Enough red and blue, left and right. We need a brand new party to be born or maybe a few parties and start all over. Of course war probably would lead to that.