Feeling betrayed (someone I considered an intellectual…)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is probably you who has changed, but your father.

He did nothing new or wrong. You are finally seeing who he really is.

I agree that therapy might help you take a mature approach to dealing with him.

(You are mourning the loss of your fantasy father)


Yes I think you are right. I wonder how I can quickly mourn it and move on. You think therapy is unavoidable?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think this is very normal in many ways. It is normal to feel let down when you realize a parent you adore is human with weaknesses. I think it is also normal for the older generation to be more limited in their thinking, as they grew up with very limited information.

And, sadly, it is becoming more common for older folks to become a bit more indoctrinated with political opinions, as they often watch news all day and most news programs are either very biased either to the right or left.


Your ageist post is laughable. The “older” generation read books with much richer vocabulary, including knowledge of history, etc. Having access to Google does not make you more intellectual.


Published books though can be limiting to a certain voice that gets published. It depends on the person. I agree with you on vocabulary but it could be that many books they read had a similar vibe like watching movies from the same TV channel. This person has stayed in a small town. I'm sure that limited the voices they were exposed to.


Op here, yes this is correct. He only read “the classics” of a certain flavor.
Anonymous
OP sees her dad is just a man and a failing in at that.

Tbh, I wonder if this isn’t about insecurity in her own relationship.

She has not effective male protector.

Anyway, it’s all a bit sad, but OP, you will get through this!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:…is in fact a close minded, rigid person prone to conspiracy theories.

Not sure which forum but I have a problem that seems too trivial to go to therapy over, but keeps bugging me. Maybe someone can say the right words and I’ll snap out of it?

I’ve always been a daddy’s girl and considered my father the smartest man on earth, was always looking up to him. My first disappointment came when I was about 18, I’ve had a year abroad and suddenly realized that my father is not as all knowing as he seemed before. I got over it, however, and soon left for college and I haven’t had much contact with him for years since (since about 2002 or so?) because I lived in a different city and we were both busy with our lives.

20 years go by, my mom dies, and he moves to my city to be closer to me (he is of course an elderly man by now, almost 80).
We start hanging out more, we talk, at first it’s fascinating as we are both rediscovering each other as personalities. However, it’s beginning to dawn on me that he has been frozen in time for decades, possibly since he was about 50. He stayed in the same town all of that time except maybe for a couple trips to see family.
I don’t think it’s due to retirement, but he has never really been that smart or had a broad outlook in life. He was not a great student, neither in HS nor in college, in fact he dropped out and re enrolled into a different school. He then kept changing jobs, and never worked for large or well known companies. I suspect his layoffs weren’t really layoffs, he was let go a few times.
I vaguely remember how he was holding pretty niche views 20 years ago too (nothing too bad, just a medley of strange conspiracy theories but also Marxism). So it’s not like he is losing it, he was always a weird guy, but he projected such intellectual might that he managed to fool me!

Anyway, I can’t get over that second disappointment in him. I remember it was pretty tough at 18, my key takeaway was that he isn’t as competent at life as I thought but then I was too busy living life.
The problem is that I can’t hold this disappointment back and this results in jabs towards my dad. I realize that I should stop talking to him about anything but everyday stuff, but I keep bringing up current events and such and I can’t get over the repeated disappointment from his takes on things.

Anyway, maybe someone has words of wisdom for me. No need to tell me how mean I am - I realize I should be a bigger person and accept dad as he is, but I can’t get over this very childish feeling of betrayal!
Thank you for reading all this.


This is classical psychological issues with some girls and their father who they built up an image of as a child then have another viewpoint as a teen, then again as an older past midlife adult. Almost like it was AI written. I say that only to let you know that you are not alone apparently. My only advice would be to read up on those. I hesitate to call it "daddy issues", since that is so cliche and vague, but delve into that arena.
Anonymous
Don’t bring current events to talk about.
Tell him you guys shouldn’t talk about politics at all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If you think Marxism is similar to strange conspiracies, this might not be the forum for you.

Marxism is pretty niche, and is not implemented easily if at all.

Our last administration made it easy.
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