Is FDA banning compounded semaglutide

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Let us know when you can collect enough people together to give their labor away for free as a passion project to develop novel pharmaceuticals. We will wait to see how long that takes.

No one is asking for that.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

How much are insurance companies paying for branded GLP1s?

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

Wow, saying you are not approved for Wegovy is an insult? You are clueless. No one needs to sell you a medication at a discount that you don’t even need.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

Wow, saying you are not approved for Wegovy is an insult? You are clueless. No one needs to sell you a medication at a discount that you don’t even need.

Still not answering the question. Because you have no leg to stand on. Got it.

And I already told you my insurance pays for it and this is not about me, but please keep repeating nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

Wow, saying you are not approved for Wegovy is an insult? You are clueless. No one needs to sell you a medication at a discount that you don’t even need.

Still not answering the question. Because you have no leg to stand on. Got it.

And I already told you my insurance pays for it and this is not about me, but please keep repeating nonsense.

Look at your question above. Weird to use the word “I.”

But anyway, you just don’t like my answer. People are buying pharmaceutical products. The company does not have to offer a discount to anyone to doesn’t meet the FDA approved indication. In fact, it seems unethical to do so. Lady, we’re not talking about buying Pepsi.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

Wow, saying you are not approved for Wegovy is an insult? You are clueless. No one needs to sell you a medication at a discount that you don’t even need.

Still not answering the question. Because you have no leg to stand on. Got it.

And I already told you my insurance pays for it and this is not about me, but please keep repeating nonsense.

Look at your question above. Weird to use the word “I.”

But anyway, you just don’t like my answer. People are buying pharmaceutical products. The company does not have to offer a discount to anyone to doesn’t meet the FDA approved indication. In fact, it seems unethical to do so. Lady, we’re not talking about buying Pepsi.

Hey dude, you still didn't answer my question. I suspect it's because you know the answer and to claim that big pharma NEEDS to make a certain amount to make it worth their while is ludicrous considering that the vast majority don't pay anywhere near that. It's not because they think that THOSE patients are more deserving of their product. It's because insurance companies are able to collectively bargain and negotiate these rates and you can't do the same. So please save me the horseshit of "they don't have to give me a discount." They aren't giving anyone a discount. The insurance companies have them by the balls and you know it. Healthcare for profit is evil and you have bouht this moronic narrative that we somehow OWE the big pharma something.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

Wow, saying you are not approved for Wegovy is an insult? You are clueless. No one needs to sell you a medication at a discount that you don’t even need.

Still not answering the question. Because you have no leg to stand on. Got it.

And I already told you my insurance pays for it and this is not about me, but please keep repeating nonsense.

Look at your question above. Weird to use the word “I.”

But anyway, you just don’t like my answer. People are buying pharmaceutical products. The company does not have to offer a discount to anyone to doesn’t meet the FDA approved indication. In fact, it seems unethical to do so. Lady, we’re not talking about buying Pepsi.

Hey dude, you still didn't answer my question. I suspect it's because you know the answer and to claim that big pharma NEEDS to make a certain amount to make it worth their while is ludicrous considering that the vast majority don't pay anywhere near that. It's not because they think that THOSE patients are more deserving of their product. It's because insurance companies are able to collectively bargain and negotiate these rates and you can't do the same. So please save me the horseshit of "they don't have to give me a discount." They aren't giving anyone a discount. The insurance companies have them by the balls and you know it. Healthcare for profit is evil and you have bouht this moronic narrative that we somehow OWE the big pharma something.

You didn’t answer how much insurance companies pay. You strike me as someone who is full of outrage and little on knowledge.

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While we are at it, where do I get my free 5090ti nvidia gpu? It’s unfair and criminal that Google, Amazon, and OpenAI get preferred access and discounted pricing on chips. Criminal. The frame rate on my games is isn’t high enough.

It’ll pair well with my wegovy script to cancel out my hot pocket addiction.

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Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Why do you get to dictate "modest" profits for a miraculous innovation that is improving the lives of millions of people?

Our country fosters the most innovation of any nation on Earth because of capitalism. The brightest minds in the world are here, and they are motivated in part by the possibility of rich rewards when they create something great. Look how Apple changed the world, and Steve Jobs rightfully became a billionaire. Amazon improves my life immensely, saving me time, stress and money every week. Jeff Bezos is rightfully a billionaire. Love it or hate it (I happen to love it), Facebook impacts the lives of millions of people, keeping them informed and connected. Zuckerberg rightfully a billionaire.

Why should the drug companies' profits be capped? They invested millions into the development of these drugs and they deserve the financial reward. They are currently developing even more effective medicines. It's beautiful. You think they should have their profits capped just because they're in healthcare? All that'd do in the long run is encourage the most brilliant minds on Earth to move to different industries. Healthcare is where we should want the most innovation, and innovation is what you get when creators are duly rewarded.

Because when you worship the dollar at the expense of human life, you fail as a human. Not a hard concept.

DP. This is the reality of life. We are not going to get these healthcare innovations without handsomely rewarding the inventors.

No, I think greedy morons like you think like that. The rest of the civilized world values human life (not just the ultra rich). Healthcare for profit is highly immoral and unethical.

Except for Wegovy, what healthcare inventions are coming out of the “rest of the civilized world?” You don’t seem to understand who is putting in the work.

You don't seem to understand that insurance companies negotiate and pay a lot less than people whose insurance doesn't cover it. Ask yourself why they are ok with that if they are barely covering their costs?

So no one else? You are convinced that profit is not a motivation for invention but you are unable to name anyone else inventing? And instead you need to deflect? Got it.

No, you are the one deflecting and can't answer simple questions. Why should I pay $1200 for Wegovy when the insurance pays a fraction of that?

Let me guess: you are not indicated for Wegovy. That’s why no one care what’s you pay.

Why can't you just answer the question instead of making it personal and hurling [perceived] insults?

Wow, saying you are not approved for Wegovy is an insult? You are clueless. No one needs to sell you a medication at a discount that you don’t even need.

Still not answering the question. Because you have no leg to stand on. Got it.

And I already told you my insurance pays for it and this is not about me, but please keep repeating nonsense.

Look at your question above. Weird to use the word “I.”

But anyway, you just don’t like my answer. People are buying pharmaceutical products. The company does not have to offer a discount to anyone to doesn’t meet the FDA approved indication. In fact, it seems unethical to do so. Lady, we’re not talking about buying Pepsi.

Hey dude, you still didn't answer my question. I suspect it's because you know the answer and to claim that big pharma NEEDS to make a certain amount to make it worth their while is ludicrous considering that the vast majority don't pay anywhere near that. It's not because they think that THOSE patients are more deserving of their product. It's because insurance companies are able to collectively bargain and negotiate these rates and you can't do the same. So please save me the horseshit of "they don't have to give me a discount." They aren't giving anyone a discount. The insurance companies have them by the balls and you know it. Healthcare for profit is evil and you have bouht this moronic narrative that we somehow OWE the big pharma something.

You didn’t answer how much insurance companies pay. You strike me as someone who is full of outrage and little on knowledge.

You didn't answer why they should pay less.

Every plan is different, and each one negotiates its own prices. Are you disputing that they pay significantly less?