Is FDA banning compounded semaglutide

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Criminal? You can debate the costs overall, and that the branded versions should be less expensive. But being so dumb that you are unable to realize production costs don’t translate to value is remarkable.

Software scales free too. Should that also cost pennies? How much of your labor do you give away for free?

How dumb do you have to be that companies make astronomical profits on these life-saving drugs. It IS criminal. Biden capped the cost of insulin which was great. We should cap the cost on these drugs too. You are a hateful moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Not criminal. Imagine you’d invested millions upon millions into developing a product and someone ripped it off, selling it for a fraction of the cost, thereby making a killing themselves. I support the drug companies who developed these miracle drugs. And I’m someone who does take the compounded version for vanity. I would gladly pay more for name brand if I could get it prescribed to me.

You are disgusting

NP. What’s disgusting? You are telling us that you supporting stealing. Are you a thief?

They should be able to recoup their cost and make a modest profit. What is the profit of most new drugs?

Don't forget to average revenue over the cost of all the failed drug candidates. Companies try many options, including in expensive clinical trials, and very few succeed to go on to be approved drugs. Even fewer are giant successes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Criminal? You can debate the costs overall, and that the branded versions should be less expensive. But being so dumb that you are unable to realize production costs don’t translate to value is remarkable.

Software scales free too. Should that also cost pennies? How much of your labor do you give away for free?

How dumb do you have to be that companies make astronomical profits on these life-saving drugs. It IS criminal. Biden capped the cost of insulin which was great. We should cap the cost on these drugs too. You are a hateful moron.

And you are clearly a person who made a series of life choices that preclude you from paying the retail cost of this patented medication.

Your bitterness over that problem is not healthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Criminal? You can debate the costs overall, and that the branded versions should be less expensive. But being so dumb that you are unable to realize production costs don’t translate to value is remarkable.

Software scales free too. Should that also cost pennies? How much of your labor do you give away for free?

How dumb do you have to be that companies make astronomical profits on these life-saving drugs. It IS criminal. Biden capped the cost of insulin which was great. We should cap the cost on these drugs too. You are a hateful moron.

And you are clearly a person who made a series of life choices that preclude you from paying the retail cost of this patented medication.

Your bitterness over that problem is not healthy.

It's not about me, moron. It's sad that you can't make an argument without resorting to personal insults about my choices. Pretty weak position if thats the best you can do. I have terrific insurance and it pays for this medication. But nice try. It's about so many others who can't afford it. How many people do you know who can shell out $1200/month for this? I always value the opinion of people who stick up for big pharma profits vs those who are advocating for fair prices for life saving medications.

[Anonymous]

Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

What's the markup on new drugs? How about profit margins?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

It's so dumb that you don't even know that insurance companies don't pay full price on these drugs. They negotiate prices and pay way less than a person does out of pocket. But that's ok, right? Insurance companies need to make money. THe only ones you hate are the ones who actually need these drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

What's the markup on new drugs? How about profit margins?

Of course, there is a "markup' and "profit margin" on new drugs. Do you really think we could have a robust pharmaceutical R&D program without it? Why don't universities actually make drugs? (Hint, they have no money and no financial inventive to do so). Besides these drugs, what are the blockbuster drugs developed in Europe? In Asia?

You talk about profit like it's a dirty word. Please show me who is developing these drugs without the financial inventive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

It's so dumb that you don't even know that insurance companies don't pay full price on these drugs. They negotiate prices and pay way less than a person does out of pocket. But that's ok, right? Insurance companies need to make money. THe only ones you hate are the ones who actually need these drugs.

So why don't you push harder to have the government negotiate lowered drug prices like our European neighbors. You do realize that is why we pay so much, right. Because Europe pays so little, and the biggest purchaser in the US doesn't negotiate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Criminal? You can debate the costs overall, and that the branded versions should be less expensive. But being so dumb that you are unable to realize production costs don’t translate to value is remarkable.

Software scales free too. Should that also cost pennies? How much of your labor do you give away for free?

How dumb do you have to be that companies make astronomical profits on these life-saving drugs. It IS criminal. Biden capped the cost of insulin which was great. We should cap the cost on these drugs too. You are a hateful moron
.

And you are clearly a person who made a series of life choices that preclude you from paying the retail cost of this patented medication.

Your bitterness over that problem is not healthy.

It's not about me, moron. It's sad that you can't make an argument without resorting to personal insults about my choices. Pretty weak position if thats the best you can do. I have terrific insurance and it pays for this medication. But nice try. It's about so many others who can't afford it. How many people do you know who can shell out $1200/month for this? I always value the opinion of people who stick up for big pharma profits vs those who are advocating for fair prices for life saving medications.

Suuure your insurance pays for this drug. You’re definitely not personally invested in the development of compound semaglutide going away. Your incessant name calling does not give away your personal stakes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

What's the markup on new drugs? How about profit margins?

Of course, there is a "markup' and "profit margin" on new drugs. Do you really think we could have a robust pharmaceutical R&D program without it? Why don't universities actually make drugs? (Hint, they have no money and no financial inventive to do so). Besides these drugs, what are the blockbuster drugs developed in Europe? In Asia?

You talk about profit like it's a dirty word. Please show me who is developing these drugs without the financial inventive.

Yes, I am aware they exist. I don't even disagree that they should make a profit. I asked you how much they are. Do you know the answer to that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look it up, pharma companies spend years and billions on R&D for new drugs. Many of these drugs never come to fruition. These companies are granted patents, to help them recoup their investments across all their R&D, not just the successful ones. Otherwise, no company would develop new drugs. What’s the point of someone is just going to steal their formulation?

It’s unfortunate that some people can’t afford the buy the branded drugs until they come off patent. That’s more of a public policy issue that a commercial one.

It's so dumb that you don't even know that insurance companies don't pay full price on these drugs. They negotiate prices and pay way less than a person does out of pocket. But that's ok, right? Insurance companies need to make money. THe only ones you hate are the ones who actually need these drugs.

So why don't you push harder to have the government negotiate lowered drug prices like our European neighbors. You do realize that is why we pay so much, right. Because Europe pays so little, and the biggest purchaser in the US doesn't negotiate.

So I should be happy to pay more to subsidize Europe? You are just ignorant, uneducated and completely illogical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The cost difference is huge. My obese father who is pre-diabetic has used compounded to great success. His insurance won't pay for it because he's not full blown diabetic, and the brand name is prohibitively expensive on his fixed income.

It is criminal that this life saving drug can be made and sold at a tiny fraction of the price and that is not allowed.

Criminal? You can debate the costs overall, and that the branded versions should be less expensive. But being so dumb that you are unable to realize production costs don’t translate to value is remarkable.

Software scales free too. Should that also cost pennies? How much of your labor do you give away for free?

How dumb do you have to be that companies make astronomical profits on these life-saving drugs. It IS criminal. Biden capped the cost of insulin which was great. We should cap the cost on these drugs too. You are a hateful moron
.

And you are clearly a person who made a series of life choices that preclude you from paying the retail cost of this patented medication.

Your bitterness over that problem is not healthy.

It's not about me, moron. It's sad that you can't make an argument without resorting to personal insults about my choices. Pretty weak position if thats the best you can do. I have terrific insurance and it pays for this medication. But nice try. It's about so many others who can't afford it. How many people do you know who can shell out $1200/month for this? I always value the opinion of people who stick up for big pharma profits vs those who are advocating for fair prices for life saving medications.

Suuure your insurance pays for this drug. You’re definitely not personally invested in the development of compound semaglutide going away. Your incessant name calling does not give away your personal stakes

Some of us are capable of seeing the issues that don't directly affect us. Not the MAGA morons such as yourself. I'll give you that.