Do all-in-one nanny/housekeeper/household managers not exist anymore?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Are you kidding me? With guaranteed 40 hours, that’s over $60k

Ok, do you want me to clean or watch your kids? Pick one.

Both, if my kid is not around or sleeping, I’d prefer someone who can clean to help with my daily life. If you don’t want to do that, don’t.

Does your boss march into your office with a mop and a toilet brush when you have a little downtime and tell you to get to work? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

People like that don’t exist because of people like OP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Are you kidding me? With guaranteed 40 hours, that’s over $60k

Ok, do you want me to clean or watch your kids? Pick one.

Both, if my kid is not around or sleeping, I’d prefer someone who can clean to help with my daily life. If you don’t want to do that, don’t.

Does your boss march into your office with a mop and a toilet brush when you have a little downtime and tell you to get to work? Just curious.

Actually yes, when I worked retail and food service this was an expected part of the job. Sometimes I had to clean the bathrooms, such is life when you work in that industry. Similar to domestic help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Are you kidding me? With guaranteed 40 hours, that’s over $60k

Wait, are you telling me that a 200k+ income in this area ISN’T poor?! This is news to 90% of DCUM I think…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Are you kidding me? With guaranteed 40 hours, that’s over $60k

Ok, do you want me to clean or watch your kids? Pick one.

Both, if my kid is not around or sleeping, I’d prefer someone who can clean to help with my daily life. If you don’t want to do that, don’t.

Does your boss march into your office with a mop and a toilet brush when you have a little downtime and tell you to get to work? Just curious.

Actually yes, when I worked retail and food service this was an expected part of the job. Sometimes I had to clean the bathrooms, such is life when you work in that industry. Similar to domestic help.

That’s not what I asked.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Considering this should be an average of the type of work (nannying older children and housekeeping) yes. You can’t support yourself on minimum wage either, but that doesn’t stop companies from paying minimum wage. $30 dollars is the average of nannying and house cleaning in this area. There are people paid more and less than the average. If you don’t want to take the job, don’t. But know that your job prospects will be relegated to high net-worth families only and they still might try to pay less than average. Blame the market for the pay rates.

Good job identifying OP’s problem. Looks like she’ll have to clean her own toilets.

I have a housekeeper who drives my older kids around and she cleans the bathrooms for $33 an hour. However I don’t think it’s a demeaning job and scrub my toilets on a regular basis. Get down on my hands and knees to do baseboards too.

Why are you so opposed to some people willing to do both? Most stay at home mothers do this work, it’s not rocket science. I would not expect a woman to watch my 8 month old and mop the floors btw. Within reason is what’s key. When children are sleeping away at school or watching movies, can some housework get done, yes it can, should the nanny do it if that’s what was agreed to, yes she can. If she doesn’t want to (hint she doesn’t have to). It’s all up to what the employer and employee agree to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Are you kidding me? With guaranteed 40 hours, that’s over $60k

Ok, do you want me to clean or watch your kids? Pick one.

Both, if my kid is not around or sleeping, I’d prefer someone who can clean to help with my daily life. If you don’t want to do that, don’t.

Does your boss march into your office with a mop and a toilet brush when you have a little downtime and tell you to get to work? Just curious.

Actually yes, when I worked retail and food service this was an expected part of the job. Sometimes I had to clean the bathrooms, such is life when you work in that industry. Similar to domestic help.

That’s not what I asked.

Cleaning and watching children is within the realm of domestic services. So yes, this scenario applies. Again if you’re a nanny only nanny, that’s fine. Why is this such a problem?

[Anonymous]

We live in NYC, and it's pretty common here to have your nanny transition to a nanny/housekeeper/household manager once your kids are in school all day. Our nanny does dishes and laundry, picks up around the house, vacuums, cleans out our fridge, grocery shops and meal preps, packs the kids' lunches, and runs errands or whatever else we need her to do. We have a housekeeping service that comes once a month to deep clean, so she isn't cleaning the baseboards or anything. She starts work at 9 am, after we've already dropped the kids off at school, and has until 3 pm to run errands and clean up before picking them up and either taking them to after school activities or watching them at home until we finish work. We pay $40/hour with guaranteed hours, 3 weeks PTO, and health insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We live in NYC, and it's pretty common here to have your nanny transition to a nanny/housekeeper/household manager once your kids are in school all day. Our nanny does dishes and laundry, picks up around the house, vacuums, cleans out our fridge, grocery shops and meal preps, packs the kids' lunches, and runs errands or whatever else we need her to do. We have a housekeeping service that comes once a month to deep clean, so she isn't cleaning the baseboards or anything. She starts work at 9 am, after we've already dropped the kids off at school, and has until 3 pm to run errands and clean up before picking them up and either taking them to after school activities or watching them at home until we finish work. We pay $40/hour with guaranteed hours, 3 weeks PTO, and health insurance.

This is what we did as well. Once the kids went to school, our nanny transitioned to more of a housekeeper role but still does things for the kids when asked/needed. The best of which is baking cookies right before they come home from school. Some of the nannies here would be horrified! She cleans up adult dishes too - gasp the horror!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a SAHM who has transitioned to a SAHW role now. I don't think any one person can do everything that you are asking.

I never had a babysitter or a nanny. I did everything related to childcare, education, summer camps, EC activities, medical checkups, traveling, socializing that my kids needed etc. However, we had a cleaning lady every two weeks and we had a person who mowed our lawns. My husband and I cooked together.

As my kids have moved out of the house now, I still have the cleaning lady, the landscape person and an occasional caterer.

I do everything OP is asking for. I clean the house (with my kids’ help), cook for my family (with my DH’s help), stay on top of our finances, help our kids with their homework, AND I work 50 hours in an office a week.

And most people I know do the same.

Yes, it’s absolutely possible to do all of this without paid help. If you can afford it, great. But let’s not pretend it isn’t possible. Millions of us do it.

[Anonymous]

You need him, not a girl.

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Different skill sets. You need one for cleaning and one for the child.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Are you kidding me? With guaranteed 40 hours, that’s over $60k

Ok, do you want me to clean or watch your kids? Pick one.

Both, if my kid is not around or sleeping, I’d prefer someone who can clean to help with my daily life. If you don’t want to do that, don’t.

Does your boss march into your office with a mop and a toilet brush when you have a little downtime and tell you to get to work? Just curious.

Actually yes, when I worked retail and food service this was an expected part of the job. Sometimes I had to clean the bathrooms, such is life when you work in that industry. Similar to domestic help.

YES
know your ABCs -- always be cleaning
If there's time to lean, there's time to clean!

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Her name would be Alice. They don’t exist anymore, but you can try offering double the usual rate.

The issue is that most people who care about children aren’t deep cleaners, and those who know how to clean, don’t much care to do childcare.

And Alice is not a “girl”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve seen nanny housekeeper jobs posted. I think expectations should be very clear, ie 1 hour of childcare 3 hours of cleaning. This is probably easily managed.

And be clear in what you’re looking for in each, for example in that hour housekeeper/nanny drives kids to school. In the three hours cleans out the fridge, wipes it down, runs laundry, cleans a bathroom, cleans fruit and veggies for the week. Simple stuff like that.

I think $30 an hour is more than fair for this kind of work, but you’ll find plenty of folks expecting much more than that on DCum

Because you can’t support yourself (let alone a family) on $30 an hour in the DC area. Is that fair?

Considering this should be an average of the type of work (nannying older children and housekeeping) yes. You can’t support yourself on minimum wage either, but that doesn’t stop companies from paying minimum wage. $30 dollars is the average of nannying and house cleaning in this area. There are people paid more and less than the average. If you don’t want to take the job, don’t. But know that your job prospects will be relegated to high net-worth families only and they still might try to pay less than average. Blame the market for the pay rates.

Good job identifying OP’s problem. Looks like she’ll have to clean her own toilets.

I have a housekeeper who drives my older kids around and she cleans the bathrooms for $33 an hour. However I don’t think it’s a demeaning job and scrub my toilets on a regular basis. Get down on my hands and knees to do baseboards too.

Why are you so opposed to some people willing to do both? Most stay at home mothers do this work, it’s not rocket science. I would not expect a woman to watch my 8 month old and mop the floors btw. Within reason is what’s key. When children are sleeping away at school or watching movies, can some housework get done, yes it can, should the nanny do it if that’s what was agreed to, yes she can. If she doesn’t want to (hint she doesn’t have to). It’s all up to what the employer and employee agree to.

A nanny is not a housekeeper. It looks like you got your housekeeper to agree to drive sometimes, which isn’t even close to providing actual childcare. Which I’m sure you know, you’re just deliberately missing the point.