My son’s teacher referred him for AAP screening before the CogAT scores qualified him for the pool, back in October I think? And yes technically my son is supposed to receive Level II services for both reading and math but I haven’t seen any evidence of what that entails for him besides being placed in the “high” group in his class. |
Cogat: 126
NNAT: 123 Pyramid: Lake Braddock In Pool (yes/no): yes Plus parent and teacher referred. |
Which school? Mine is really similar but not in pool in Kings Glen Cogat: 122 NNAT: 127 Pyramid: Lake Braddock In Pool (yes/no): no |
Is this the first year they are doing local in pool determinations? |
No. It was local norms last year, and I believe for a bit before that as well. |
At least 2 years. I think it started when fcps wanted more diversity at TJ. I remember there being discussions that it is too late by middle school and kids need to be captured earlier. |
Do people actually get scores that are not in the 90th percentile? I feel like DCUM is giving me a very skewed perception |
Definitely skewed. If you go by this forum, you'd think 90% of kids get 140 or higher on the COGAT. |
Absolutely. This is an extremely self-selected bunch. The same is true about I-Ready, NNAT, etc. |
This is an AAP forum. Most/all kids in AAP would have scores higher than 130. Im not sure what percentile that is but I’m assuming 90+. |
130 composite is the 97th percentile nationally. Which is why it seems weird when so many post scores that are in such a high percentile, and in some schools, the 97th percentile isn't enough. |
Pp here. My older kids got into AAP in the old system where you only had to have one score above 132 to be in pool. Both scored around 120 on NNAT and that was 87th percentile or something around there. Their cogat scores were both over 140. |
Someone else pointed out on this forum that the top 10% in a class of 25 translates to the top 2-3 kids. If you keep that fact in mind, it's a lot less surprising to find out that there are some schools where 97% isn't high enough. All it would take is 2-3 kids scoring higher than 97% to bump that 97% kid out of the top 10%. Given how highly educated this area is, it's actually not that weird. |
There are very few, probably under 5, that have a class with only 25 kids. We were at Fox Mill ES, a smaller school, and had about 90 kids each grade. Ten percent was a small number of kids, 9-10, but parents know that they can refer if they want. Most schools have classes that are larger and the number of kids covered is greater. |
Why are you all giving the pyramid but not the specific school? Its the elementary school scores that matter for top ten percent. The pyramid is not relevant. |