co-ed locker room for adult hockey

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Anonymous wrote:Is this normal? Just got into adult hockey after not paying for 25 years. I have no problem with co-ed teams, but I was shocked when one of the ladies on the team changes in the same locker room as all of the guys. She doesn't get nude, but there are guys who do because they have to take off everything to put on protective jock shorts. No one bats and eye. I've even heard to mad stories where some ladies would go shower in the same showers as the guys like it is Starship Troopers and I guess no one cares? I mean what if she ends up being somewhat attractive and your 🍆 starts having a mind of its own?

Are co-ed locker rooms for adult league sports just a thing now? It seems like way too much risk for sexual harassment claims and lawsuits. How do wives feel about their DH getting fully nude and showering with other random women in a locker room?

Are you sure this particular female identifies as such? Maybe they are using the locker room that best aligns with their gender identity?

I don't think that's fair to the men and their wives.

Man, sometimes on this site I find out that I’m way more progressive than I thought.

How so? If she was clear about being transgender, that's one thing, but if she appears to be a woman in their locker room...

Different pp here. I'm unclear about what you're talking about. Are you talking about a post-op trans woman changing in front of men being a problem or a pre-op trans man changing in front of men being a problem? Or both? Or neither?

From what I've seen on DCUM, people want all trans women in the men's locker room and all trans men in the women's locker room.

I'm saying that a transgender man is a man, so no issues being in a male locker room.

Why are transgenders allowed to play sports anyway? It’s unfair and unsportsmanlike. It’s also inappropriate for them to change in any locker room at all. They should not be allowed to play sports in any league. If they like them then they can watch but not participate.

I understand your perspective if playing in a women's league..but how is it unfair to play in a co-ed league? It's not like their hormone therapy make them bionic.

Because it’s unbalanced and unfair. And the locker rooms as previously mentioned. Neither locker room is appropriate for a transgender. Think about it.

Why do they need to be allowed to play sports? Sports aren’t for everyone.

You need to explain in the context of a co-ed hockey team. What is unbalanced or unfair...there may be only one biological woman playing and I guess from your definition that one team is now unbalanced so it's unfair.

If they are sharing one locker room (the subject of this thread), then what does it mean "neither locker room"...there is only one locker room.

There would be no "transgender in sports" issue at all if all transgender athletes had to play on male teams.

There would be an issue because they shouldn’t be allowed to play on male teams. I don’t want transgender women or transgender men in any locker room. No one should be seeing them undressed. It’s not appropriate. Why are they even playing sports anyway? When they decide to transition they give up their right to do that as far as I’m concerned. I’d actually like to see them only using those single stall bathrooms too. I don’t want trans women in the men’s room with my son. That could make him want to be like that.

At the end of the day they’re a problem for society spreading their ideology and trying to invade our biological female and biological male spaces. I would be okay if they had their own league. I think it could make sense for them to live in the same neighborhoods too kind of like how DuPont is gay. Just have transgender areas. If you’re a transgender those are the areas you can live and we can designate most other areas for straight people.

So...you now appreciate your previous arguments were complete nonsense from a Co-Ed Hockey competitiveness standpoint. Even if you give them their own changing area, I don't see any reason they can't compete in a CoEd league. In theory, a 90 pound 5 foot biological woman could show up to play and might get checked into the boards by a 300 pound 6'5" biological man.

At least you could have admitted that in fact you have no competitiveness argument at all, but rather you just don't like transgender people.

Most of the time these co-ed teams try to balance things out. Having biological males saying they’re women or biological females saying they are men will unbalance the game. I care about fairness in sports. Why not just have a team of men playing all women next if that’s what you believe in?

It's CoEd Hockey you dipshit. If they are in fact balancing the competitiveness, then everyone comes to a tryout and they look at your abilities and then create teams. If you are allowed to just get a group together and create a team, then there is nothing stopping 10 former D1 hockey players from forming a team and beating the snot out of another team that is all women...but I doubt the leagues operate this way.

This is really a strange thread for you to be spouting your nonsense.

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This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

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At our rink which has 4 locker rooms I have often seen on the assignment board: Room 1 - Team 1, Room 2 - Team 2, Room 3 - Women. Its similar for the youth leagues where all the girls from both teams are typically assigned one locker room.

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It's also not a legitimate competitiveness issue, either. As far as I am aware, there are no real "co-ed" adult hockey leagues in the area like you might find in soccer or softball.

There are mens leagues and there are women's leagues. On very rare occasions, women who play or have played in college will play in the mens league. I have been playing men's league in the area for 25 years and have encountered less than a dozen women. Some dress with the boys and some dress in an auxiliary locker room.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this normal? Just got into adult hockey after not paying for 25 years. I have no problem with co-ed teams, but I was shocked when one of the ladies on the team changes in the same locker room as all of the guys. She doesn't get nude, but there are guys who do because they have to take off everything to put on protective jock shorts. No one bats and eye. I've even heard to mad stories where some ladies would go shower in the same showers as the guys like it is Starship Troopers and I guess no one cares? I mean what if she ends up being somewhat attractive and your 🍆 starts having a mind of its own?

Are co-ed locker rooms for adult league sports just a thing now? It seems like way too much risk for sexual harassment claims and lawsuits. How do wives feel about their DH getting fully nude and showering with other random women in a locker room?

Are you sure this particular female identifies as such? Maybe they are using the locker room that best aligns with their gender identity?

I don't think that's fair to the men and their wives.

Man, sometimes on this site I find out that I’m way more progressive than I thought.

How so? If she was clear about being transgender, that's one thing, but if she appears to be a woman in their locker room...

Different pp here. I'm unclear about what you're talking about. Are you talking about a post-op trans woman changing in front of men being a problem or a pre-op trans man changing in front of men being a problem? Or both? Or neither?

From what I've seen on DCUM, people want all trans women in the men's locker room and all trans men in the women's locker room.

I'm saying that a transgender man is a man, so no issues being in a male locker room.

Why are transgenders allowed to play sports anyway? It’s unfair and unsportsmanlike. It’s also inappropriate for them to change in any locker room at all. They should not be allowed to play sports in any league. If they like them then they can watch but not participate.

I understand your perspective if playing in a women's league..but how is it unfair to play in a co-ed league? It's not like their hormone therapy make them bionic.

Because it’s unbalanced and unfair. And the locker rooms as previously mentioned. Neither locker room is appropriate for a transgender. Think about it.

Why do they need to be allowed to play sports? Sports aren’t for everyone.

You need to explain in the context of a co-ed hockey team. What is unbalanced or unfair...there may be only one biological woman playing and I guess from your definition that one team is now unbalanced so it's unfair.

If they are sharing one locker room (the subject of this thread), then what does it mean "neither locker room"...there is only one locker room.

There would be no "transgender in sports" issue at all if all transgender athletes had to play on male teams.

There would be an issue because they shouldn’t be allowed to play on male teams. I don’t want transgender women or transgender men in any locker room. No one should be seeing them undressed. It’s not appropriate. Why are they even playing sports anyway? When they decide to transition they give up their right to do that as far as I’m concerned. I’d actually like to see them only using those single stall bathrooms too. I don’t want trans women in the men’s room with my son. That could make him want to be like that.

At the end of the day they’re a problem for society spreading their ideology and trying to invade our biological female and biological male spaces. I would be okay if they had their own league. I think it could make sense for them to live in the same neighborhoods too kind of like how DuPont is gay. Just have transgender areas. If you’re a transgender those are the areas you can live and we can designate most other areas for straight people.

So...you now appreciate your previous arguments were complete nonsense from a Co-Ed Hockey competitiveness standpoint. Even if you give them their own changing area, I don't see any reason they can't compete in a CoEd league. In theory, a 90 pound 5 foot biological woman could show up to play and might get checked into the boards by a 300 pound 6'5" biological man.

At least you could have admitted that in fact you have no competitiveness argument at all, but rather you just don't like transgender people.

Most of the time these co-ed teams try to balance things out. Having biological males saying they’re women or biological females saying they are men will unbalance the game. I care about fairness in sports. Why not just have a team of men playing all women next if that’s what you believe in?

It's CoEd Hockey you dipshit. If they are in fact balancing the competitiveness, then everyone comes to a tryout and they look at your abilities and then create teams. If you are allowed to just get a group together and create a team, then there is nothing stopping 10 former D1 hockey players from forming a team and beating the snot out of another team that is all women...but I doubt the leagues operate this way.

This is really a strange thread for you to be spouting your nonsense.

FWIW, women who played D1 hockey mostly dominate the co-ed leagues. I'm not talking about head-to-head against men who played D1, but if you're talking about your average 40-something man who played some high school hockey, the former D1 woman wins.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this normal? Just got into adult hockey after not paying for 25 years. I have no problem with co-ed teams, but I was shocked when one of the ladies on the team changes in the same locker room as all of the guys. She doesn't get nude, but there are guys who do because they have to take off everything to put on protective jock shorts. No one bats and eye. I've even heard to mad stories where some ladies would go shower in the same showers as the guys like it is Starship Troopers and I guess no one cares? I mean what if she ends up being somewhat attractive and your 🍆 starts having a mind of its own?

Are co-ed locker rooms for adult league sports just a thing now? It seems like way too much risk for sexual harassment claims and lawsuits. How do wives feel about their DH getting fully nude and showering with other random women in a locker room?

Are you sure this particular female identifies as such? Maybe they are using the locker room that best aligns with their gender identity?

I don't think that's fair to the men and their wives.

Man, sometimes on this site I find out that I’m way more progressive than I thought.

How so? If she was clear about being transgender, that's one thing, but if she appears to be a woman in their locker room...

Different pp here. I'm unclear about what you're talking about. Are you talking about a post-op trans woman changing in front of men being a problem or a pre-op trans man changing in front of men being a problem? Or both? Or neither?

From what I've seen on DCUM, people want all trans women in the men's locker room and all trans men in the women's locker room.

I'm saying that a transgender man is a man, so no issues being in a male locker room.

Why are transgenders allowed to play sports anyway? It’s unfair and unsportsmanlike. It’s also inappropriate for them to change in any locker room at all. They should not be allowed to play sports in any league. If they like them then they can watch but not participate.

I understand your perspective if playing in a women's league..but how is it unfair to play in a co-ed league? It's not like their hormone therapy make them bionic.

Because it’s unbalanced and unfair. And the locker rooms as previously mentioned. Neither locker room is appropriate for a transgender. Think about it.

Why do they need to be allowed to play sports? Sports aren’t for everyone.

You need to explain in the context of a co-ed hockey team. What is unbalanced or unfair...there may be only one biological woman playing and I guess from your definition that one team is now unbalanced so it's unfair.

If they are sharing one locker room (the subject of this thread), then what does it mean "neither locker room"...there is only one locker room.

There would be no "transgender in sports" issue at all if all transgender athletes had to play on male teams.

There would be an issue because they shouldn’t be allowed to play on male teams. I don’t want transgender women or transgender men in any locker room. No one should be seeing them undressed. It’s not appropriate. Why are they even playing sports anyway? When they decide to transition they give up their right to do that as far as I’m concerned. I’d actually like to see them only using those single stall bathrooms too. I don’t want trans women in the men’s room with my son. That could make him want to be like that.

At the end of the day they’re a problem for society spreading their ideology and trying to invade our biological female and biological male spaces. I would be okay if they had their own league. I think it could make sense for them to live in the same neighborhoods too kind of like how DuPont is gay. Just have transgender areas. If you’re a transgender those are the areas you can live and we can designate most other areas for straight people.

So...you now appreciate your previous arguments were complete nonsense from a Co-Ed Hockey competitiveness standpoint. Even if you give them their own changing area, I don't see any reason they can't compete in a CoEd league. In theory, a 90 pound 5 foot biological woman could show up to play and might get checked into the boards by a 300 pound 6'5" biological man.

At least you could have admitted that in fact you have no competitiveness argument at all, but rather you just don't like transgender people.

Most of the time these co-ed teams try to balance things out. Having biological males saying they’re women or biological females saying they are men will unbalance the game. I care about fairness in sports. Why not just have a team of men playing all women next if that’s what you believe in?

It's CoEd Hockey you dipshit. If they are in fact balancing the competitiveness, then everyone comes to a tryout and they look at your abilities and then create teams. If you are allowed to just get a group together and create a team, then there is nothing stopping 10 former D1 hockey players from forming a team and beating the snot out of another team that is all women...but I doubt the leagues operate this way.

This is really a strange thread for you to be spouting your nonsense.

FWIW, women who played D1 hockey mostly dominate the co-ed leagues. I'm not talking about head-to-head against men who played D1, but if you're talking about your average 40-something man who played some high school hockey, the former D1 woman wins.

I guarantee if you show up to a game and the opposing side has 2+ women on the team...your initial reaction is probably "oh shit"...because those women aren't just former HS players.

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Anonymous wrote:It's also not a legitimate competitiveness issue, either. As far as I am aware, there are no real "co-ed" adult hockey leagues in the area like you might find in soccer or softball.

There are mens leagues and there are women's leagues. On very rare occasions, women who play or have played in college will play in the mens league. I have been playing men's league in the area for 25 years and have encountered less than a dozen women. Some dress with the boys and some dress in an auxiliary locker room.

And you want transgenders changing in front of you or your husband? Think about it. They shouldn’t play sports. I don’t understand why it’s so hard for some people to understand but when they choose to become transgender, they give up their right to change in locker rooms and play sports. Or at least they should. This is what will be talked about in the next election. Democrats obsession with transgenders is the gift that keeps on giving.

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Nobody except you is talking about transgenders, you freakin' weirdo.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

They need to grow up. Men are in no danger from other men in the locker room.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

They need to grow up. Men are in no danger from other men in the locker room.

Correct. Which is what I said. But they deserve privacy, yes?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

They need to grow up. Men are in no danger from other men in the locker room.

Correct. Which is what I said. But they deserve privacy, yes?

They can change in one of the bathroom stalls.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

They need to grow up. Men are in no danger from other men in the locker room.

I don't know how it is among grown men, but among boys, there have been bullying issues in locker rooms on almost every team my son has played on. Not specifically directed at him, although in his first year on a new team, he did have a hard time in the locker room.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

They need to grow up. Men are in no danger from other men in the locker room.

Correct. Which is what I said. But they deserve privacy, yes?

They can change in one of the bathroom stalls.

That's a yes, then. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:This thread isn't about kids and women's spaces. It's about adults and it's about women being in what are ostensively men's locker rooms.

Every rink I have been to in the DMV has accommodations (or will make accommodations) for women who want to get dressed separately.

That fact that you feel like you have to bring your anti-trans agenda into this thread is all the proof I need that you are, in fact, obesessed.

What about men who want to get dressed separately? Of course they are not at risk, but they deserve privacy, yes?

They need to grow up. Men are in no danger from other men in the locker room.

Correct. Which is what I said. But they deserve privacy, yes?

They can change in one of the bathroom stalls.

That's a yes, then. Thanks!

So that’s already an option but they don’t have to. So again, do you want transgender women changing in front of boys and men? Think about it.