Signing Day-- ECNL to College Womens Soccer

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

TRUTH.

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

100%. We all know who they are and their arrogance is unbearable. What I don't know is if the kids themselves understand why they are on the rosters.

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

100%. We all know who they are and their arrogance is unbearable. What I don't know is if the kids themselves understand why they are on the rosters.

These people jump in full force with youth clubs, get on boards, push their kids to get opportunities and when it goes sour because the level of talent on the field becomes apparent to everyone, they try and get coaches fired. When that doesn't work, they go to the next club. Fast forward to the college "deal" and they are blasting it in everyone's face about the amazing accomplishment of their kids soccer recruitment to top 20 soccer schools...that also happen to be great schools. These kids would not have been noticed let alone recruited to these schools based on anything to do with soccer. But hey, if it works why wouldn't you run with it and why be humble, they got what the wanted. I think the kids believe it all til they hit the bench permanently.

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

This is not happening. You may think that but it is not. This is not the way college sports work after Varsity Blues. You may think that it does but no it does not.

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

100%. We all know who they are and their arrogance is unbearable. What I don't know is if the kids themselves understand why they are on the rosters.

These people jump in full force with youth clubs, get on boards, push their kids to get opportunities and when it goes sour because the level of talent on the field becomes apparent to everyone, they try and get coaches fired. When that doesn't work, they go to the next club. Fast forward to the college "deal" and they are blasting it in everyone's face about the amazing accomplishment of their kids soccer recruitment to top 20 soccer schools...that also happen to be great schools. These kids would not have been noticed let alone recruited to these schools based on anything to do with soccer. But hey, if it works why wouldn't you run with it and why be humble, they got what the wanted. I think the kids believe it all til they hit the bench permanently.

No one is getting to a top 20 school -- I mean admission without $1 million donation.

[Anonymous]

Also if you’re saying it’s just two kids out of the many many kids who play on ECNL teams in the area then really you need to calm down. It’s not pervasive. It’s not affecting your kid who probably wasn't being recruiting anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

This list is more a reflection of where the kids live than their soccer abilities. It's no secret that kids from high schools in wealthy areas go to schools like this at higher rates. Union players are mostly from McLean. Take a look at where non-soccer kids from McLean are going to college and it will be a similar list. Part of it is parents who are alumni and have connections, part of it is being wealthy enough to give your kids every advantage (SAT classes, private schools). Not to mention college coaches are happy to add non-scholarship players so parents being able to afford full tuition at these schools is important. Soccer might be giving them a small boost to help get into these schools but many of these kids would be going to their even without soccer.

[Anonymous]

Exactly. These kids could get into these schools without soccer. Parents are not using donations to get their kids in to the school, but to get a roster spot. It's the status of saying your kid is 'playing at Duke', (for example) that this is all about.

It is also about wealthy parents making sure their kids always get what they want. DC not happy about prospect of playing D3 at say top D3bl school? Well, "DC is soooo talented, let's 'help' them get that top20 roster spot. Top20 coach will eventually realize talent that so far only we parents can see"!

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

100%. We all know who they are and their arrogance is unbearable. What I don't know is if the kids themselves understand why they are on the rosters.

I have absolutely no idea who you are talking about

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

100%. We all know who they are and their arrogance is unbearable. What I don't know is if the kids themselves understand why they are on the rosters.

These people jump in full force with youth clubs, get on boards, push their kids to get opportunities and when it goes sour because the level of talent on the field becomes apparent to everyone, they try and get coaches fired. When that doesn't work, they go to the next club. Fast forward to the college "deal" and they are blasting it in everyone's face about the amazing accomplishment of their kids soccer recruitment to top 20 soccer schools...that also happen to be great schools. These kids would not have been noticed let alone recruited to these schools based on anything to do with soccer. But hey, if it works why wouldn't you run with it and why be humble, they got what the wanted. I think the kids believe it all til they hit the bench permanently.

No one is getting to a top 20 school -- I mean admission without $1 million donation.

No way. The kids play soccer, the parents dont donate. That's so "aunt becky" and so illegal. You all and your sour grapes are hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Exactly. These kids could get into these schools without soccer. Parents are not using donations to get their kids in to the school, but to get a roster spot. It's the status of saying your kid is 'playing at Duke', (for example) that this is all about.

It is also about wealthy parents making sure their kids always get what they want. DC not happy about prospect of playing D3 at say top D3bl school? Well, "DC is soooo talented, let's 'help' them get that top20 roster spot. Top20 coach will eventually realize talent that so far only we parents can see"!

There are no donations for roster spots. That is all over everywhere. No one can get into those schools on that list because they are rich or smart. Lottery pick at best for everyone. So maybe some could get in but maybe not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

This list is more a reflection of where the kids live than their soccer abilities. It's no secret that kids from high schools in wealthy areas go to schools like this at higher rates. Union players are mostly from McLean. Take a look at where non-soccer kids from McLean are going to college and it will be a similar list. Part of it is parents who are alumni and have connections, part of it is being wealthy enough to give your kids every advantage (SAT classes, private schools). Not to mention college coaches are happy to add non-scholarship players so parents being able to afford full tuition at these schools is important. Soccer might be giving them a small boost to help get into these schools but many of these kids would be going to their even without soccer.

None of those connections or wealth help get a slot on a soccer team. They could help get into the school but now the team.

[Anonymous]

You are wonderfully naive!

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

TRUTH.

I'm sorry but this is BS. Prove it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Arlington kids seem to go to high academic schools - many are in top private high schools like Sidwell and GDS. Don’t be fooled and think your kid can go to some of those schools from a public high school. They are student athletes for sure. And one of the VDA kids going to an Ivy League school goes to TJ. Academics probably mattered more than soccer. This isn’t an insult — good for these girls!

Ivy league schools don't do athletic scholarships, so if a student is getting into an Ivy it's all academics

That’s not quite the way it works. Coaches can help a certain number of players. The academics have to be good but the help is significant.

Agree. No athletic $$, but athletics can get you admitted when you otherwise wouldn't be.

Most of the schools on the list you would hope the player can get in without soccer. It is harder getting on the team vs getting in the college.

Did you look at those lists? Many of the schools on that list would be a lottery pick if you had top grades and scores.

UPenn
Vanderbilt
Davidson
Carnegie Mellon
Emory
Princeton
Stanford
MIT

echo this. You look at this list and last year’s, a big chunk of the schools are sub 10% acceptance rate. Even your best student around here would be rolling the dice to get in, without legacy or other ++.

And to the weirdo who says you can get your kid onto the team with a large donation- have you seen the endowments at most of these schools? Not happening.

A donation within the means of people in this area will not get your kid on any team at a decent school. People here are rich but not with an extra million to throw away.

Grab a clue. Families in the DMV are donating LARGE amounts of money to get their kids on the end of rosters. 2 of them signed last week at top 20 schools. People are just afraid to call them out...and when they go to social media and blast it in everyone's face it just shows you the arrogance.

TRUTH.

I'm sorry but this is BS. Prove it

Don't have to. I know it's the truth from people on my DD's team. Plus other teams in the area have similar situations. You not believing that is a YOU problem.