Trump's plan to destroy DC

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Other than abortion and Floride, if this article is "all" it is, then not too nig a deal to withstand for a few years.

It's a column, not an article, and he's using trumped up language to describe a much more mundane situation.

Yes abortion is an issue but that's not about Trump -- it's about Congress and they've been using DC as a political football in abortion and crime debates for years. Dobbs of course makes that worse but Dobbs is done -- of course DC is not immune to it's consequences and the stupid situation by which Congress still has an outsized say in local politics was always going to be an issue with a Republican Congress. This sucks but is not uniquely different than how it has been with prior Republican takeovers.

The threats about schools are dumb and reflect conservative fantasies about what public schools in "blue" cities are like. Trump can ban critical race theory in DCPS and this will have exactly zero impact on my child's educational experience because CRT is not actually a central aspect of her education -- she is learning phonics and New Math. And actually DCPS tends to be slightly more socially conservative than charters because DCPS has olderm, longer-tenured teachers who are often personally religious -- where charters in DC will more vocally support gay rights or trans issues, most DCPS schools stay far away from those issues (and it's not just teachers and administrators -- a signficant percent of DCPS families have more conservative views on these issues because the black community tends to be more religious and less progressive on these issues). I guess maybe charters should be worried? But DC generally just uses Common Core curriculum which has nothing to do with any of Trump's pet issues. This is a non-issue that actually reveals the ways that DC itself is not a conservative's fever dream of a progressive city. The reality is very different from what they imagine.

Personally I'd be fine with the feds pushing for stricter crime enforcement and increased prosecution of crime. And so would a lot of the city's citizens including the vast majority of us who voted happily for Harris. Crime in DC sucks and the unique set up of the government gives citizens very little power to push for change. I wouldn't cry if Republicans found a way to make the city tougher on crime and neither would most of my neighbors in NE DC. There are activist groups who would freak out but that's precisely why I'd be fine with a GOP Congress and administration taking the heat from them. Those groups are well-intentioned but counterproductive and progressive politicians won't stand up to them for fear of being cancelled. It's put us in a terrible position with regards to criminal enforcement and I'd embrace a shake up of the status quo. I'm a lifelong Dem and I'm exhausted by the mealy-mouthed platitudes and inaction from DC politicians who think combatting violent crime is inherently racist. Grow up.

Anyway there are a lot of things about a Trump presidency that concern me but this isn't one of them. Folks in DC need to stop trying to make this about themselves. DC will be fine.

Thank you for sanely reflecting my thoughts, as well. We have one in DCPS (currently in K and started in PK3) and I've found the curriculum to be very straight laced. My kid is not getting inundated with CRT or the boogyman de jour.

One thing that might be smart for DC Council & Mayor is to pre-emptively amend DC's abortion law to legalize to the point of viability, with post-viability exceptions for R/I/fetal health/mothers health. Take the wind out the Republicans' sails on this issue.

[Anonymous]

This is not a bad idea. It will benefit VA and many feds.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think Reps give a rats arse about abortion in DC. Heck they’re probably all for it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its no secret trump has stated his hatred of DC which votes 93% for democrats.

I heard this from a friend of a friend with some ties to Trump's inner circles, the plan in the next few years will be to hit/move significant number of agencies out of DC, for the ones which will have to be in the area for logistical reasons/defense/dod will be moved across the river into Virginia in a bid to have loyalists turn Virginia into permanent red state rather than having their people waste their electoral position in MD/DC. Virginia went blue by about 200k. Eventually firing about 100k democrats and having about 100k loyalists in VA will shift it red. DC and MOCO will be rendered into a slum outside of a few places next to the mall/capital hill.

Any how, I am praying this is not true, but it sounds like something they are capable of.

Just because you work in DC doesn’t mean you LIVE in dc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately or fortunately he’s known for shooting his mouth off and not following through

Right. He won’t do 25% of what he promises.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its no secret trump has stated his hatred of DC which votes 93% for democrats.

I heard this from a friend of a friend with some ties to Trump's inner circles, the plan in the next few years will be to hit/move significant number of agencies out of DC, for the ones which will have to be in the area for logistical reasons/defense/dod will be moved across the river into Virginia in a bid to have loyalists turn Virginia into permanent red state rather than having their people waste their electoral position in MD/DC. Virginia went blue by about 200k. Eventually firing about 100k democrats and having about 100k loyalists in VA will shift it red. DC and MOCO will be rendered into a slum outside of a few places next to the mall/capital hill.

Any how, I am praying this is not true, but it sounds like something they are capable of.

I am quite worried about my job, but what you are describing is way easier said than done - just because of real estate practicalities, never mind laws and requirements for moving agencies. Where are all these agencies going to be located in congested NoVA? Or are they moving to red counties, in which case you need to build out the space from scratch? And, wouldn't this exercise be pointless since his loyalists can live and vote in VA even if they commute to DC?

Also, he cannot make DC and MOCO a slum. Among other reasons - Federal employees are not a major economic engine, as we've seen in the countless failed attempts to revitalize sketchy parts of DC by moving an agency there. Lobbyists etc. will still be in DC and they are the ones spending money at nice retail/restaurant developments and nice housing, which is what actually revitalizes areas.

Lots to worry about, but this is not on the list.

Hmmmm

Reeves Center (local Dc) was created at 14th and U and now that is one of the most expensive neighborhoods in DC.
ATF was moved to NoMa and now that is one of the most expensive neighborhoods in DC.
3 agencies were moved to Navy Yard area and now that is a very trendy area.

What agencies were moved to a sketchy area that remained sketchy? (and st eliabeths west doesn't count since it is a completely walled off installation that provides no external facing public amenities)

The area around Suitland Federal Center remains sketchy

Not DC but New Carrollton / IRS

[Anonymous]

Feds don't live in DC anymore so moving them elsewhere won't destroy the city. Same reason having fed employees return to the office won't help DC, it's priced for lawyers, lobbyists, contractors, and trust fund activists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Other than abortion and Floride, if this article is "all" it is, then not too nig a deal to withstand for a few years.

It's a column, not an article, and he's using trumped up language to describe a much more mundane situation.

Yes abortion is an issue but that's not about Trump -- it's about Congress and they've been using DC as a political football in abortion and crime debates for years. Dobbs of course makes that worse but Dobbs is done -- of course DC is not immune to it's consequences and the stupid situation by which Congress still has an outsized say in local politics was always going to be an issue with a Republican Congress. This sucks but is not uniquely different than how it has been with prior Republican takeovers.

The threats about schools are dumb and reflect conservative fantasies about what public schools in "blue" cities are like. Trump can ban critical race theory in DCPS and this will have exactly zero impact on my child's educational experience because CRT is not actually a central aspect of her education -- she is learning phonics and New Math. And actually DCPS tends to be slightly more socially conservative than charters because DCPS has olderm, longer-tenured teachers who are often personally religious -- where charters in DC will more vocally support gay rights or trans issues, most DCPS schools stay far away from those issues (and it's not just teachers and administrators -- a signficant percent of DCPS families have more conservative views on these issues because the black community tends to be more religious and less progressive on these issues). I guess maybe charters should be worried? But DC generally just uses Common Core curriculum which has nothing to do with any of Trump's pet issues. This is a non-issue that actually reveals the ways that DC itself is not a conservative's fever dream of a progressive city. The reality is very different from what they imagine.

Personally I'd be fine with the feds pushing for stricter crime enforcement and increased prosecution of crime. And so would a lot of the city's citizens including the vast majority of us who voted happily for Harris. Crime in DC sucks and the unique set up of the government gives citizens very little power to push for change. I wouldn't cry if Republicans found a way to make the city tougher on crime and neither would most of my neighbors in NE DC. There are activist groups who would freak out but that's precisely why I'd be fine with a GOP Congress and administration taking the heat from them. Those groups are well-intentioned but counterproductive and progressive politicians won't stand up to them for fear of being cancelled. It's put us in a terrible position with regards to criminal enforcement and I'd embrace a shake up of the status quo. I'm a lifelong Dem and I'm exhausted by the mealy-mouthed platitudes and inaction from DC politicians who think combatting violent crime is inherently racist. Grow up.

Anyway there are a lot of things about a Trump presidency that concern me but this isn't one of them. Folks in DC need to stop trying to make this about themselves. DC will be fine.

Thank you for sanely reflecting my thoughts, as well. We have one in DCPS (currently in K and started in PK3) and I've found the curriculum to be very straight laced. My kid is not getting inundated with CRT or the boogyman de jour.

One thing that might be smart for DC Council & Mayor is to pre-emptively amend DC's abortion law to legalize to the point of viability, with post-viability exceptions for R/I/fetal health/mothers health. Take the wind out the Republicans' sails on this issue.

My teens go to a majority Black high school in DC. They aren’t learning CRT or any LGBTQ+ stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Other than abortion and Floride, if this article is "all" it is, then not too nig a deal to withstand for a few years.

It's a column, not an article, and he's using trumped up language to describe a much more mundane situation.

Yes abortion is an issue but that's not about Trump -- it's about Congress and they've been using DC as a political football in abortion and crime debates for years. Dobbs of course makes that worse but Dobbs is done -- of course DC is not immune to it's consequences and the stupid situation by which Congress still has an outsized say in local politics was always going to be an issue with a Republican Congress. This sucks but is not uniquely different than how it has been with prior Republican takeovers.

The threats about schools are dumb and reflect conservative fantasies about what public schools in "blue" cities are like. Trump can ban critical race theory in DCPS and this will have exactly zero impact on my child's educational experience because CRT is not actually a central aspect of her education -- she is learning phonics and New Math. And actually DCPS tends to be slightly more socially conservative than charters because DCPS has olderm, longer-tenured teachers who are often personally religious -- where charters in DC will more vocally support gay rights or trans issues, most DCPS schools stay far away from those issues (and it's not just teachers and administrators -- a signficant percent of DCPS families have more conservative views on these issues because the black community tends to be more religious and less progressive on these issues). I guess maybe charters should be worried? But DC generally just uses Common Core curriculum which has nothing to do with any of Trump's pet issues. This is a non-issue that actually reveals the ways that DC itself is not a conservative's fever dream of a progressive city. The reality is very different from what they imagine.

Personally I'd be fine with the feds pushing for stricter crime enforcement and increased prosecution of crime. And so would a lot of the city's citizens including the vast majority of us who voted happily for Harris. Crime in DC sucks and the unique set up of the government gives citizens very little power to push for change. I wouldn't cry if Republicans found a way to make the city tougher on crime and neither would most of my neighbors in NE DC. There are activist groups who would freak out but that's precisely why I'd be fine with a GOP Congress and administration taking the heat from them. Those groups are well-intentioned but counterproductive and progressive politicians won't stand up to them for fear of being cancelled. It's put us in a terrible position with regards to criminal enforcement and I'd embrace a shake up of the status quo. I'm a lifelong Dem and I'm exhausted by the mealy-mouthed platitudes and inaction from DC politicians who think combatting violent crime is inherently racist. Grow up.

Anyway there are a lot of things about a Trump presidency that concern me but this isn't one of them. Folks in DC need to stop trying to make this about themselves. DC will be fine.

Thank you for sanely reflecting my thoughts, as well. We have one in DCPS (currently in K and started in PK3) and I've found the curriculum to be very straight laced. My kid is not getting inundated with CRT or the boogyman de jour.

One thing that might be smart for DC Council & Mayor is to pre-emptively amend DC's abortion law to legalize to the point of viability, with post-viability exceptions for R/I/fetal health/mothers health. Take the wind out the Republicans' sails on this issue.

My teens go to a majority Black high school in DC. They aren’t learning CRT or any LGBTQ+ stuff.

There's a concept of not negotiating with yourself, because it pretty much always ends up with the other side still wanting a negotiation (or in this case, imposition).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its no secret trump has stated his hatred of DC which votes 93% for democrats.

I heard this from a friend of a friend with some ties to Trump's inner circles, the plan in the next few years will be to hit/move significant number of agencies out of DC, for the ones which will have to be in the area for logistical reasons/defense/dod will be moved across the river into Virginia in a bid to have loyalists turn Virginia into permanent red state rather than having their people waste their electoral position in MD/DC. Virginia went blue by about 200k. Eventually firing about 100k democrats and having about 100k loyalists in VA will shift it red. DC and MOCO will be rendered into a slum outside of a few places next to the mall/capital hill.

Any how, I am praying this is not true, but it sounds like something they are capable of.

Honestly, I'm ok with this. It will lessen my commute to work.

Agreed.

Frankly they should go further and distribute agencies across the whole country. It is deeply unhealthy for our Democracy for our vast unelected bureaucracies to live in a one-party bubble city -- I cannot think of any other nation that does this.

I don't think they all live here anyway. And distributing agencies can create more logistical problems and other concerns with workforce, security infrastructure, etc. And how will this help you exactly if you live in VA? You want to move so badly to wherever you think this admin would want to put offices? Where would that be? In the meanwhile if you want to take most government related functions out of DC metro what will be left to prop up and support your property values? or did you buy your house 20 years ago?

[Anonymous]

Elon and Vivek say no redistribution needed; just shut it down?

[Anonymous]

"Bowser, in requesting to meet with Trump, said she is focused on the policy priorities in which she needs federal collaboration — namely, her desire for the federal workforce to return to work in person"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/...owser-trump-meeting/

[Anonymous]

lol lol lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately or fortunately he’s known for shooting his mouth off and not following through

Right. He won’t do 25% of what he promises.

Likely this. Though I wish there would be a federal takeover and subsequent results in areas where D.C. abjectly fails; D.C. can’t find or prosecute a single violent criminal, has completely given up to do anything at all in regard to non-violent crimes, and the council ‘leaders’ do absolutely nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately or fortunately he’s known for shooting his mouth off and not following through

Right. He won’t do 25% of what he promises.

Likely this. Though I wish there would be a federal takeover and subsequent results in areas where D.C. abjectly fails; D.C. can’t find or prosecute a single violent criminal, has completely given up to do anything at all in regard to non-violent crimes, and the council ‘leaders’ do absolutely nothing.

You mean "violence interruptors" don't actually do anything useful beyond absorbing tax dollars from the productive class? Who could have possibly predicated that?