Foreign student voted in Michigan

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The ID part is meaningless. As a green card holder, he could have gotten a license. It's the other documentation that got him registered. It was a failure, but no one has ever claimed they don't happen.

People have claimed on this board that no one would ever take the risk of voting as a noncitizen for fear of prosecution.

And the vast majority of them wouldn't. I also like to say that the vast majority of people won't shut on the salad bar at Ponderosa for fear of prosecution, but sure. Yeah. I am sure you can find a few people who share in salad bars.

Exceptions prove the rule.

So yes, your previous claim was incorrect.

What previous claim? You are arguing a bad face because you know no one said "no one ever ever would." Just that it is so rare as to be negligible beyond negligible

You can always find an outlier; it doesn't mean anything.

Learn how to reason please.

I’ll repeat slowly. Your claim that “no one ever claimed they don’t happen” is false as any reader of this board could tell you. People say that all the time here.

Show me just once where someone said "it never happens." I'll be waiting here all day. At best you'll find one which of course by your logic extrapolates out to everybody. But that would be false.

Look we know what's going on here all evidence seems to show that the majority of people who commit voter fraud are Republicans. But whatever. Put that aside.

You all know your boy is about to lose and lose big and you're setting the stage for a ground swell of election fraud accusations

Guys it's just not going to happen this time we're all over it. The courts. The law. The citizens. No one's buying the same old song from you idiots anymore.

Search it for yourself. Read the various threads on illegal immigration and you’ll see the arguments range from the predictable “it never happens” to “it’s not widespread” to “aliens should be allowed to vote”. Give me a break about the idea that it’s never argued. Of course it is and we have all read it.

The rest of your screed is partisan nonsense and irrelevant to this thread. Keep on topic.

Lady, we’re awaiting your receipts. Please come back with them before spamming this thread. Show us how wrong we are….

[Anonymous]

He will have his student visa revoked and will be deported. That is the deterrent.

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Anonymous wrote:And, he's being prosecuted. Rightly so. One vote is not going to make an election. What if he voted for Trump? The Chinese want Trump to win? Would you still care?

THIS IS NOT A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MAGA MASTER SAYS.

Correct.

At most, it probably only happens a half million or so times each national election. Tops. No more than that.

That is fake news from your dear leader. If you can find reputable sources saying that 500K noncitizens are voting for the president then I’ll share your outrage.

I’ll wait….

Every illegal vote cancels a citizen’s vote. It’s a shame you aren’t at all upset by someone being disenfranchised unnecessarily.

I’m definitely upset about being disenfranchised by the GOP and Trump’s talk about how voting is rigged and tainted and that he will only lose because of voter fraud. That’s scary sh!t and I’m definitely afraid of his bullying states to not certify their electors. I’m definitely afraid of voter disenfranchisement, but not because of one random foreign student at Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He was caught. The system works!

Ummm 🤔

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Though he faces charges his vote will still count

https://x.com/craigdmauger/status/1851695285379989703?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

Will his vote change the outcome of the election?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, he's being prosecuted. Rightly so. One vote is not going to make an election. What if he voted for Trump? The Chinese want Trump to win? Would you still care?

THIS IS NOT A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MAGA MASTER SAYS.

Correct.

At most, it probably only happens a half million or so times each national election. Tops. No more than that.

That is fake news from your dear leader. If you can find reputable sources saying that 500K noncitizens are voting for the president then I’ll share your outrage.

I’ll wait….

Every illegal vote cancels a citizen’s vote. It’s a shame you aren’t at all upset by someone being disenfranchised unnecessarily.

I’m definitely upset about being disenfranchised by the GOP and Trump’s talk about how voting is rigged and tainted and that he will only lose because of voter fraud. That’s scary sh!t and I’m definitely afraid of his bullying states to not certify their electors. I’m definitely afraid of voter disenfranchisement, but not because of one random foreign student at Michigan.

And yet that is a literal case of voter disenfranchisement. Yet you don’t care.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Though he faces charges his vote will still count

https://x.com/craigdmauger/status/1851695285379989703?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

Will his vote change the outcome of the election?

It’s literally 50-50 in the polls right now so every vote is going to matter, whether he voted for Trump or Harris.

How many others like him are saying they are citizens when they are not and voting?

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Anonymous wrote:Ok here is the Detroit News.

Used a student ID - exactly why Republicans do not support them as voter ID.

And the vote counts.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

Why does the vote count?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He will have his student visa revoked and will be deported. That is the deterrent.

The problem is he is not the only one. We have many, many foreign students who are likely doing the same thing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Though he faces charges his vote will still count

https://x.com/craigdmauger/status/1851695285379989703?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

Will his vote change the outcome of the election?

It’s literally 50-50 in the polls right now so every vote is going to matter, whether he voted for Trump or Harris.

How many others like him are saying they are citizens when they are not and voting?

Probably not very many. Is Michigan really going to be decided by a handful of votes? Do you honestly believe it's going to be 20 vote difference in the presidential race?

Most of the voter fraud cases that have come to light have been Republicans voting for Trump. That is a fact you can look up. I, as a Harris supporter, am not worried about hose handful of fraudulent Republican votes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, he's being prosecuted. Rightly so. One vote is not going to make an election. What if he voted for Trump? The Chinese want Trump to win? Would you still care?

THIS IS NOT A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MAGA MASTER SAYS.

Correct.

At most, it probably only happens a half million or so times each national election. Tops. No more than that.

That is fake news from your dear leader. If you can find reputable sources saying that 500K noncitizens are voting for the president then I’ll share your outrage.

I’ll wait….

Every illegal vote cancels a citizen’s vote. It’s a shame you aren’t at all upset by someone being disenfranchised unnecessarily.

I’m definitely upset about being disenfranchised by the GOP and Trump’s talk about how voting is rigged and tainted and that he will only lose because of voter fraud. That’s scary sh!t and I’m definitely afraid of his bullying states to not certify their electors. I’m definitely afraid of voter disenfranchisement, but not because of one random foreign student at Michigan.

Trump was upset that Pennsylvania was illegally closing voting lines on the last day of mail in ballot requests, at 1:45 pm. The law says the lines had to stay open until five. Luckily a judge agreed and is forcing another day for voters. We just have to hope that those disenfranchised Bucks County voters who were illegally turned away come again to vote.

Surely you would agree with Trump and the judge that Pennsylvania needs to follow the law?

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/philadelphia/news/bucks-county-ballots-mail-lawsuit-pennsylvania-election/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Though he faces charges his vote will still count

https://x.com/craigdmauger/status/1851695285379989703?s=46&t=Rw_jX1uyupQwvEwsjuQulQ

Will his vote change the outcome of the election?

It’s literally 50-50 in the polls right now so every vote is going to matter, whether he voted for Trump or Harris.

How many others like him are saying they are citizens when they are not and voting?

Probably not very many. Is Michigan really going to be decided by a handful of votes? Do you honestly believe it's going to be 20 vote difference in the presidential race?

Most of the voter fraud cases that have come to light have been Republicans voting for Trump. That is a fact you can look up. I, as a Harris supporter, am not worried about hose handful of fraudulent Republican votes.

We don’t know that this is a “handful of votes.” No one caught this man in the first place.

This is a completely tied race.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ok here is the Detroit News.

Used a student ID - exactly why Republicans do not support them as voter ID.

And the vote counts.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/10/30/chinese-university-of-michigan-college-student-voted-presidential-election-michigan-china-benson/75936701007/

Why does the vote count?

It’s in the article - can’t be retrieved.

[Anonymous]

“Every vote counts.”

Presumably, the student has now canceled out someone else’s vote. This is justice denied.

The real problem is that is unreasonable to expect Americans to have confidence in an electoral system that makes it difficult to virtually impossible to detect fraud.

Perhaps voter fraud is not a widespread problem. Perhaps it is. There really is no way to know because election security is not taken seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Every vote counts.”

Presumably, the student has now canceled out someone else’s vote. This is justice denied.

The real problem is that is unreasonable to expect Americans to have confidence in an electoral system that makes it difficult to virtually impossible to detect fraud.

Perhaps voter fraud is not a widespread problem. Perhaps it is. There really is no way to know because election security is not taken seriously.

Okay. So sounds like you're already calling for the the election to be halted.

This must be the GOP playbook. They know Trump is going to lose so they are coming up with all sorts of disaster scenarios why it has to be tossed out.

Meanwhile, there has never once been an election in this country without some fraudulent votes or miscounted votes. Never. Not one. Yet we've survived -- because in the scheme of things a handful of wrongly counted or bad ballots is not going to change the outcome in an election with millions of votes.