Foreign student voted in Michigan

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Anonymous wrote:The ID part is meaningless. As a green card holder, he could have gotten a license. It's the other documentation that got him registered. It was a failure, but no one has ever claimed they don't happen. Just that it's rare.

Buckle up people. We're going to be hearing lots of these random stories making it seem like it's a big thing as the trumpers try to get their "the election was stolen!" arguments in order after he loses next week

Make it seem? Why is there this elaborate well-funded operation to get tens of thousands of kids who literally do not live in Michigan registered to vote and voting on UofM's campus? Because Michigan's swing state. UofM's campus is over 50% out-of-state and international students. Any in-state kid can easily get an absentee ballot from their hometown clerk. Kids should be voting where they went to high school. If you don't qualify for in-state tuition, you're not a Michigan resident and shouldn't be used as a tool to swing elections. How can anyone with an ounce of morals and integrity support this garbage?

Should the Liberty University students not vote in VA? All you need is proof of your dormitory to vote.

This is such a non-issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine you're a middle class Ann Arbor homeowner and these apparatus foot soldiers get 30k kids from New York, New Jersey, California (...maybe some Chinese kids for good measure) to vote to raise your taxes and cancel out your votes for mayor, city council, state lawmakers. That is literally what is happening. And then 100% of those kids go back to the coasts and China after college.

Uh, do you know the Michigan attorney general was up for election in 2022 and DaPerno, the GOP opponent wanted to ban statewide abortion. If you are living there for 4 years, hth does that not affect you?

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Anonymous wrote:“Every vote counts.”

Presumably, the student has now canceled out someone else’s vote. This is justice denied.

The real problem is that is unreasonable to expect Americans to have confidence in an electoral system that makes it difficult to virtually impossible to detect fraud.

Perhaps voter fraud is not a widespread problem. Perhaps it is. There really is no way to know because election security is not taken seriously.

Yes, we should cancel all American votes and allow our political elites and lobbyists to choose the PRESIDENT.

Right?

Nah just require photo ID and actually require proof of citizenship, not just self attesting.

What is your proof of citizenship?

Birth Certificate
Naturalization Certificate
Social Security Card
Passport

That didn’t help Obama. Trump and his minions still said he wasn’t born here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine you're a middle class Ann Arbor homeowner and these apparatus foot soldiers get 30k kids from New York, New Jersey, California (...maybe some Chinese kids for good measure) to vote to raise your taxes and cancel out your votes for mayor, city council, state lawmakers. That is literally what is happening. And then 100% of those kids go back to the coasts and China after college.

If you live in a university town, you benefit immensely from the university and the students who are paying tuition. You have sports, entertainment, culture, etc. you would not otherwise have. You have a lot of educated citizens who contribute to the community. You have great public schools, health care, and services. Part of your property value is because of the proximity of the university. All the students count in the Census for your state’s Congressional apportionment and formula funding of dozens of grants. They pay sales taxes, excise taxes, etc. that fund local governments. They live there and are subject to state and local laws for several years. Students should have the same right to vote as an other resident.

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They are letting people vote multiple times.

Commenters quickly figured out that it’s related to homeless people. Most of those addresses are shelters. So that single voter has been registered many previous times at different addresses. Somehow the voter file is showing all the addresses for which that person has voted. But the system will not accept more than one vote from each voter ID. They apparently fixed the issue.

Also, Matthew DePerno Esq slyly posted an image that cuts off the next column which shows “REJECTED” ballots.

Don’t believe everything you see on social media.

What a manipulative jerk

He lost the AG race in 2022 and is out for destruction. A true @sskissing Trumpster.

[Anonymous]

If you can vote in a state. You should be able to pay in-state tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine you're a middle class Ann Arbor homeowner and these apparatus foot soldiers get 30k kids from New York, New Jersey, California (...maybe some Chinese kids for good measure) to vote to raise your taxes and cancel out your votes for mayor, city council, state lawmakers. That is literally what is happening. And then 100% of those kids go back to the coasts and China after college.

If you live in a university town, you benefit immensely from the university and the students who are paying tuition. You have sports, entertainment, culture, etc. you would not otherwise have. You have a lot of educated citizens who contribute to the community. You have great public schools, health care, and services. Part of your property value is because of the proximity of the university. All the students count in the Census for your state’s Congressional apportionment and formula funding of dozens of grants. They pay sales taxes, excise taxes, etc. that fund local governments. They live there and are subject to state and local laws for several years. Students should have the same right to vote as an other resident.

That’s not how the law works.

OOS students are residents of their home state. If they want to vote and can’t travel back to vote in person, they have to submit absentee ballots to their states of residence. They cannot vote in the town where their dorm is unless they change their residency to that state/district. Most parents still claim them as dependents on their tax returns. If the parents do that, then they have to maintain their residency with the parents.

And students here in student visas are not American citizens so they are ineligible to vote based on federal law.

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Trumpsters are so desperate. First it’s all GenZ are voting for Trump. Now they defy logic again to think every oos college voter is Dem. Should my son’s single Trumpster friend not vote in NY, because that’s what he’s planning to do? Should Trumpster oos not vote at Penn State? Of course they’re allowed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The ID part is meaningless. As a green card holder, he could have gotten a license. It's the other documentation that got him registered. It was a failure, but no one has ever claimed they don't happen. Just that it's rare.

Buckle up people. We're going to be hearing lots of these random stories making it seem like it's a big thing as the trumpers try to get their "the election was stolen!" arguments in order after he loses next week

Make it seem? Why is there this elaborate well-funded operation to get tens of thousands of kids who literally do not live in Michigan registered to vote and voting on UofM's campus? Because Michigan's swing state. UofM's campus is over 50% out-of-state and international students. Any in-state kid can easily get an absentee ballot from their hometown clerk. Kids should be voting where they went to high school. If you don't qualify for in-state tuition, you're not a Michigan resident and shouldn't be used as a tool to swing elections. How can anyone with an ounce of morals and integrity support this garbage?

Should the Liberty University students not vote in VA? All you need is proof of your dormitory to vote.

This is such a non-issue.

What percentage are not citizens? And goes Virginia verify citizenship at any time when registering to vote?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine you're a middle class Ann Arbor homeowner and these apparatus foot soldiers get 30k kids from New York, New Jersey, California (...maybe some Chinese kids for good measure) to vote to raise your taxes and cancel out your votes for mayor, city council, state lawmakers. That is literally what is happening. And then 100% of those kids go back to the coasts and China after college.

If you live in a university town, you benefit immensely from the university and the students who are paying tuition. You have sports, entertainment, culture, etc. you would not otherwise have. You have a lot of educated citizens who contribute to the community. You have great public schools, health care, and services. Part of your property value is because of the proximity of the university. All the students count in the Census for your state’s Congressional apportionment and formula funding of dozens of grants. They pay sales taxes, excise taxes, etc. that fund local governments. They live there and are subject to state and local laws for several years. Students should have the same right to vote as an other resident.

That’s not how the law works.

OOS students are residents of their home state. If they want to vote and can’t travel back to vote in person, they have to submit absentee ballots to their states of residence. They cannot vote in the town where their dorm is unless they change their residency to that state/district. Most parents still claim them as dependents on their tax returns. If the parents do that, then they have to maintain their residency with the parents.

And students here in student visas are not American citizens so they are ineligible to vote based on federal law.

You are wrong. A college student who is a citizen is eligible to register and vote where they live as a student even if they are still a dependent for tax purposes to parents in another state. The student decides which residence to claim. Republicans in VA tried to prevent students from registering with dorm addresses in 2008 and they lost in court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And, he's being prosecuted. Rightly so. One vote is not going to make an election. What if he voted for Trump? The Chinese want Trump to win? Would you still care?

THIS IS NOT A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MAGA MASTER SAYS.

Only US citizens should vote. Doesn’t matter he votes for Trump or democrats, only US citizens should vote .

I naturalized so that I can vote.

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They are letting people vote multiple times.

It is a glitch per MAGA Lara Trump. We know you will only believe this if it comes from a MAGA so settle down.

Good news in that instance.

How do you expect people to have confidence in a system that glitches this badly?

I feel pretty good, after Donald Trump's 2 year investigation, funded by over $100M in donations, including 60 lawsuits, found no evidence of fraud impacting election outcomes in national races. Donald Trump restored my faith in elections.

Again, the standard should not be: “no evidence of …”

It should be: “we know it was fair, secure, and open to every eligible citizen”*

Those are different standards and the latter one is crucial to a functional, pluralistic democracy.

*Thank you to the PP who added the last part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, he's being prosecuted. Rightly so. One vote is not going to make an election. What if he voted for Trump? The Chinese want Trump to win? Would you still care?

THIS IS NOT A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MAGA MASTER SAYS.

Only US citizens should vote. Doesn’t matter he votes for Trump or democrats, only US citizens should vote .

I naturalized so that I can vote.

Yes, we all agree on that, Vlad. The question was to whether it could be retrieved. Everyone seems to think he voted Dem, which just speaks to their paranoia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And, he's being prosecuted. Rightly so. One vote is not going to make an election. What if he voted for Trump? The Chinese want Trump to win? Would you still care?

THIS IS NOT A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM NO MATTER WHAT YOUR MAGA MASTER SAYS.

Only US citizens should vote. Doesn’t matter he votes for Trump or democrats, only US citizens should vote .

I naturalized so that I can vote.

Yes, we all agree on that, Vlad. The question was to whether it could be retrieved. Everyone seems to think he voted Dem, which just speaks to their paranoia.

LOL I will not be shocked at all if he's some online-radicalized rightwinger who is obsessed with Trump and was egged on to vote for Trump by 4chan.

Once the Feds get into his online history, his true sympathies will become very clear. Idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine you're a middle class Ann Arbor homeowner and these apparatus foot soldiers get 30k kids from New York, New Jersey, California (...maybe some Chinese kids for good measure) to vote to raise your taxes and cancel out your votes for mayor, city council, state lawmakers. That is literally what is happening. And then 100% of those kids go back to the coasts and China after college.

If you live in a university town, you benefit immensely from the university and the students who are paying tuition. You have sports, entertainment, culture, etc. you would not otherwise have. You have a lot of educated citizens who contribute to the community. You have great public schools, health care, and services. Part of your property value is because of the proximity of the university. All the students count in the Census for your state’s Congressional apportionment and formula funding of dozens of grants. They pay sales taxes, excise taxes, etc. that fund local governments. They live there and are subject to state and local laws for several years. Students should have the same right to vote as an other resident.

That’s not how the law works.

OOS students are residents of their home state. If they want to vote and can’t travel back to vote in person, they have to submit absentee ballots to their states of residence. They cannot vote in the town where their dorm is unless they change their residency to that state/district. Most parents still claim them as dependents on their tax returns. If the parents do that, then they have to maintain their residency with the parents.

And students here in student visas are not American citizens so they are ineligible to vote based on federal law.

Exactly. This is organized election fraud. If they thought these kids were 90+ % MAGA voters this crap would end immediately.