University of south carolina for Int'l business?

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Prior to consulting, I was in industry. My company then did not consider Darla a target school even though we had operations in the region.

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International Business major would be better off at Georgetown to be brutally honest.

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Anonymous wrote:International Business major would be better off at Georgetown to be brutally honest.

+1 or the other USC (Univ of Southern CA).

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know why previous responses were deleted?? There was nothing offensive about them??

I said it before and so I’ll say it again


Say you get into Wharton Ross or McIntyre…. You’re going to choose to go to Darla?? No.


And that is no shade on Darla. But Darla is not Top 10. And OPs kid has stats to make Top 10 viable.

Some kids might choose Darla for location, merit offer, SC honors, etc.

And that’s fine. The school is Fine. No one is saying the school is bad PP. But kids who have the means, and the grades, and the scores, have many many other options. My kid didn’t even use U of SC as a safety.

Then why are you posting on a UofSC thread?

Because the OP asked about International Business. And as far as I can tell, I am the only one so far who has actually had 15 years of global business experience. I know who is hired, who is not hired, I did the hiring, I directed the recruitment efforts, and I can tell you that an “International Business” degree from U of SC does NOT compare to a Regular business degree from McIntyre or Ross. Companies prioritize the schools they hire from. Those are FACTS. Google the term “Do companies Target Schools for Recruitment”

But please let’s keep going with your inane, personally affronted, “no Darla is GREAT’ comments.

This is anecdotal and possibly outdated if you are no longer in industry.

If you mean overseeing total recruitment efforts for a multinational that grew from 15,000 employees to 60,000 employees in 10 years, establishing our “Tier 1 Schools” at a global level (aka target schools, and U of SC was not one of them) and then comparing notes with other F500 Talent Acquisition leaders…… sure, use the word anecdotal.

Great. Kids from Darla and any other b school get good jobs too.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

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Anonymous wrote:International Business major would be better off at Georgetown to be brutally honest.

+1. I thought about this too. Honestly, OP, if your kid is unsure between international business and IR, you should consider triangulating between schools that have a good business program and a good IR program in case he wants to go a different route. Georgetown may be tough (hard admit and SFS is very competitive) but there are some others that would give your kid options.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

Of course. No one is saying they can’t PP. But don’t overstate what Darla is especially in light of all of the input here about what it is not.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

It really depends on the job you are after.

School says 92% of IB grads get jobs at $75k/year and $5k bonus. Best results for UofSC (slightly exceeds finance grads).

It’s a decent outcome…but not earth shattering.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

Okay, but share what the “international jobs” are. I’m genuinely asking. I’m incredibly skeptical, because most IB programs do not succeed at this, but maybe you will prove me wrong and UofSC has cracked the code. But I’m talking about real international jobs, not just “they were employed 6 months after graduation.”

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

Okay, but share what the “international jobs” are. I’m genuinely asking. I’m incredibly skeptical, because most IB programs do not succeed at this, but maybe you will prove me wrong and UofSC has cracked the code. But I’m talking about real international jobs, not just “they were employed 6 months after graduation.”

They have this on their website- https://sc.edu/study/colleges_schools/moore/talent_recruiting/office_of_career_management/company_recruiter_resources/employment_statistics/index.php

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Gone are they days of companies hiring undergraduates with little or not business experience to send them overseas as an expat. It’s too expensive. The few companies I know of that still do some of this are Big Oil - Chevron, BP, and ExxonMobil. These companies don’t target IB majors specifically. They actually prefer engineering majors.

Other MNCs hire undergrads with general business or finance/economic backgrounds and run them through their rotational programs. Your DC is better served focusing on finance/economic and a foreign language to increase their chance of a career in IB.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

Okay, but share what the “international jobs” are. I’m genuinely asking. I’m incredibly skeptical, because most IB programs do not succeed at this, but maybe you will prove me wrong and UofSC has cracked the code. But I’m talking about real international jobs, not just “they were employed 6 months after graduation.”

They have this on their website- https://sc.edu/study/colleges_schools/moore/talent_recruiting/office_of_career_management/company_recruiter_resources/employment_statistics/index.php

Okay, so the same companies as the other majors. This was a point I made earlier. IB programs are not sending kids into IB jobs, so unless the culture and fit speak to you, better to pursue a different major at the best school (and fit) you can swing.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

Okay, but share what the “international jobs” are. I’m genuinely asking. I’m incredibly skeptical, because most IB programs do not succeed at this, but maybe you will prove me wrong and UofSC has cracked the code. But I’m talking about real international jobs, not just “they were employed 6 months after graduation.”

They have this on their website- https://sc.edu/study/colleges_schools/moore/talent_recruiting/office_of_career_management/company_recruiter_resources/employment_statistics/index.php

Okay, so the same companies as the other majors. This was a point I made earlier. IB programs are not sending kids into IB jobs, so unless the culture and fit speak to you, better to pursue a different major at the best school (and fit) you can swing.

The IB companies listed are global, so you don’t know that the placement wasn’t international.

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Anonymous wrote:OP your kid has stats for a much better business school. As someone who has had global responsibilities and has done an expat assignment abroad for an international company you don’t need an “international business” degree. Have your kid go to the highest ranked school and overall business school (university of South Carolina is not top) The best b schools all offer global exposure to their undergrads, trips, even global internships. Look them up. Then join a F500 with global presence for the first gig out of school.

As someone who recruits at business schools for consulting, the above advice is dead on. I’ve recruited at Penn, UVA, Michigan, and CMU. Univ of SC is never under consideration. If your child is interested in int’l business, focus on a foreign language and do a semester abroad at a top 25 business school.

This thread isn’t about consulting and surely you are aware most kids don’t go to a T25 b school. This thread has been hijacked by people with no apparent knowledge about Darla. Move on

No. You don’t get to cancel others just because you don’t like the discussion. The original queation was ‘does the international degree at U of SC have any merit’. And many here are trying to answer that. You don’t have to like what is being offered. But you don’t get to stop others from providing real business advice.

+1. I’ve commented previously providing advice about this as well, and I also agree with the poster at 20:30. This is not meant to be a U of SC booster thread but a thread about OP’s question. While I hope someone can shed light on why, exactly, U of SC has a popular international business program, it doesn’t change the reality that this is a weaker major (that often doesn’t result in an international business career) or that Darla is a middling business school in the grand scheme of things. It’s helpful for these views to be shared, not just defensive posts from people with their kids there currently.

And Darla grads can still get international jobs if they want. Not all companies target Darla grads and UofSC isn’t Harvard, but let’s be honest that Darla kids can be successful too.

Okay, but share what the “international jobs” are. I’m genuinely asking. I’m incredibly skeptical, because most IB programs do not succeed at this, but maybe you will prove me wrong and UofSC has cracked the code. But I’m talking about real international jobs, not just “they were employed 6 months after graduation.”

They have this on their website- https://sc.edu/study/colleges_schools/moore/talent_recruiting/office_of_career_management/company_recruiter_resources/employment_statistics/index.php

Okay, so the same companies as the other majors. This was a point I made earlier. IB programs are not sending kids into IB jobs, so unless the culture and fit speak to you, better to pursue a different major at the best school (and fit) you can swing.

The IB companies listed are global, so you don’t know that the placement wasn’t international.

I do, because I know the way these US-based and US-centric companies operate. The Big 4 consulting firms generally hire new hires in the country where they have right to work. BoA is heavily US-focused for a large bank. They aren’t shipping these kids all over the world just because they majored in IB, which is also why they are same companies listed across multiple majors.