What would change your mind on the Israel / Hamas / Hezbollah war?

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't imagine if the previous occupants of my house moved in, annexed me to the windowless powder room and garage, and the took over that "my" portion when I spoke out. I am still paying the mortgage on this place.

This. There should have been a two state solution in the beginning.

there was…palestinians were offered half the land. they said no. arabs invaded and then there was the israeli war of independence.

Then the people should have dispersed throughout the world. Deciding to forcibly take half a country as your own wouldn’t go over well anywhere.

Jews have there before Muslims even existed.

The origin of humanity doesn’t give you claim to a country in the twentieth century.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't imagine if the previous occupants of my house moved in, annexed me to the windowless powder room and garage, and the took over that "my" portion when I spoke out. I am still paying the mortgage on this place.

This. There should have been a two state solution in the beginning.

there was…palestinians were offered half the land. they said no. arabs invaded and then there was the israeli war of independence.

Then the people should have dispersed throughout the world. Deciding to forcibly take half a country as your own wouldn’t go over well anywhere.

Because the Jewish people will never again find themselves stateless as they were during WW2. Unless you acknowledge this, you will remain confused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't imagine if the previous occupants of my house moved in, annexed me to the windowless powder room and garage, and the took over that "my" portion when I spoke out. I am still paying the mortgage on this place.

This. There should have been a two state solution in the beginning.

there was…palestinians were offered half the land. they said no. arabs invaded and then there was the israeli war of independence.

Then the people should have dispersed throughout the world. Deciding to forcibly take half a country as your own wouldn’t go over well anywhere.

Because the Jewish people will never again find themselves stateless as they were during WW2. Unless you acknowledge this, you will remain confused.

The Jewish people have a UN mandated state. Who is not acknowledging this? 10/7 was the result of pent up anger / hatred for the air/land/sea blockage of Gaza. Hamas came to hurt and kill. That was terrible. But they did not come to destroy cities and towns. That is what Israel has / is doing in Gaza and Lebanon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I used to be neutral. Now I do not think Israel should exist without a Palestinian state. The Palestinian state must be funded(both militarily and economically) at the same level as Israel.

Also there would have to be a Palestinian/Islamic lobbyist organization equal to AIPAC and the American media would have to disclose their bias cover.

So the only way I would change is if there is a Palestinian state equal to Israel in every way. Israel has said they would never allow any type of Palestinian state.

Then you ARE neutral, my dear. It's the right thing to be. The pro-Israel lobby in the US is guilty of war crimes by association, sadly. The persecution of people on campuses and in workplaces all over the US for daring to speak up to protect innocent Palestinian lives is outrageous.

A two-state solution is the only solution. It's fraught, because of the water problem, but surely we can figure out a way.

That being said, I am celebrating today the elimination of a master criminal and terrorist, the Hezbollah leader. Good riddance!!! We need to get rid of ALL the war criminals, on both sides.

He is no more a terrorist than any Israeli military leader. Just because Israel can force the US to declare freedom fighters(Hezbollah) does not mean they are terrorists. Hezbollah was created because Israel invaded and occupied Lebanon for 22 years.

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't imagine if the previous occupants of my house moved in, annexed me to the windowless powder room and garage, and the took over that "my" portion when I spoke out. I am still paying the mortgage on this place.

This. There should have been a two state solution in the beginning.

there was…palestinians were offered half the land. they said no. arabs invaded and then there was the israeli war of independence.

Then the people should have dispersed throughout the world. Deciding to forcibly take half a country as your own wouldn’t go over well anywhere.

Jews have there before Muslims even existed.

It doesn't matter. Why not take Germany?

[Anonymous]

Nothing. October 7th was their Pearl Harbor, it ends when the enemy is no longer able to carry on the fight.

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't imagine if the previous occupants of my house moved in, annexed me to the windowless powder room and garage, and the took over that "my" portion when I spoke out. I am still paying the mortgage on this place.

This. There should have been a two state solution in the beginning.

there was…palestinians were offered half the land. they said no. arabs invaded and then there was the israeli war of independence.

Then the people should have dispersed throughout the world. Deciding to forcibly take half a country as your own wouldn’t go over well anywhere.

Because the Jewish people will never again find themselves stateless as they were during WW2. Unless you acknowledge this, you will remain confused.

The Jewish people have a UN mandated state. Who is not acknowledging this? 10/7 was the result of pent up anger / hatred for the air/land/sea blockage of Gaza. Hamas came to hurt and kill. That was terrible. But they did not come to destroy cities and towns. That is what Israel has / is doing in Gaza and Lebanon.

Hezbollah started firing on Israel first. Same with Yemen. And you are trying to claim that poor Gaza has never been the aggressor to Israel? They just hang out and mind their business and pose no threat?

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Anonymous wrote:I couldn't imagine if the previous occupants of my house moved in, annexed me to the windowless powder room and garage, and the took over that "my" portion when I spoke out. I am still paying the mortgage on this place.

This. There should have been a two state solution in the beginning.

there was…palestinians were offered half the land. they said no. arabs invaded and then there was the israeli war of independence.

Then the people should have dispersed throughout the world. Deciding to forcibly take half a country as your own wouldn’t go over well anywhere.

Because the Jewish people will never again find themselves stateless as they were during WW2. Unless you acknowledge this, you will remain confused.

The Jewish people have a UN mandated state. Who is not acknowledging this? 10/7 was the result of pent up anger / hatred for the air/land/sea blockage of Gaza. Hamas came to hurt and kill. That was terrible. But they did not come to destroy cities and towns. That is what Israel has / is doing in Gaza and Lebanon.

So why doesn’t Hamas attack Egypt? They enforce a blockade too.

[Anonymous]

I would change my mind about Hamas and Hezbollah if they gave up all their weapons and started using humanitarian aid to educate their children and not to build weapons. I’ll change my mind about Hamas is they stop putting their women and children in front of fighters and using them as human shields. I’ll change my mind about Hamas and Hezbollah when they stop declaring war to Israel, death to Jews, and demanding “all or nothing” with the land.

I would stop supporting Israel if Israel truly committed a genocide or apartheid - which it has not — by purposely lining up civilians and killing them in masse in cold blood - not bombing as part of a war effort as we see today where Israel is dropping flyers telling innocent people to flee. I’m not talking about shootings in war zones of Palestinians who are caught in the cross fire or are terrorist dressed as old women with bombs strapped to their chest - these situations are horrible but understandable given the depravity of this war. I’m talking about gas chambers and leading lambs to slaughter.

I would change my mind about the US if it started giving into the antisemitism of the far left and stopped supporting Israel.

[Anonymous]

I also reject the binary "which side are you on?" I'm pro-Israel, pro-Palestinian, and pro-peace.
Two quick points to the person who wants the UN to install peacekeeping troops or whatever:
There are UN troops in Lebanon trying to support the Lebanese army, but they are far out-gunned by Hizbullah. God forbid the US, UK, or France should send troops--in 1983, Hizbullah killed 230 Marines in Lebanon. Biggest attack on Marines since Iwo Jima.

As to the UN: This is the same body that gave Yasser Arafat a standing ovation, while he was holding a gun (violating UN rules). So of course the Islamic bloc (90 countries or so) will walk out on Netanyahu. So what else is new?

[Anonymous]

And it's wonderful to see Syrians celebrate--Hizbullah has propped up the Assad regime for decades. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/28/syrians-celebrate-idlib-hassan-nasrallah-death/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And it's wonderful to see Syrians celebrate--Hizbullah has propped up the Assad regime for decades. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/28/syrians-celebrate-idlib-hassan-nasrallah-death/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Wow, maybe now GenZ will start to protest Syria as well and call them "Zionists"

[Anonymous]

If Israelis started screaming death to America and burning US flags, I’d reconsider.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Israelis started screaming death to America and burning US flags, I’d reconsider.

Interesting. How do you feel about democrats and BLM? Have you turned against black people because some burned flags during BLM protests or because they took knees during the national anthem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Israelis started screaming death to America and burning US flags, I’d reconsider.

Cut off the massive, comical financial and military aid and that will be the least of their attacks on America. That’s all it would take - after all, they intentionally killed dozens of U.S. sailors on the USS Liberty when we were doing nothing more than supporting their provocations in the 1960s. If we cut funding, they will turn on us like the pit vipers they are.