Has the Bayesian yacht sinking been discussed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s hard to conjure much sympathy for the ostentatious yacht crowd. And I think the captain has some liability here. But one less billionaire in the world…

Look, I’m very concerned about wealth inequality and I think we need to tax the hell out of the super rich and corporations, but that’s just a vile thing to say. And it doesn’t exactly open anyone’s mind to considering your point of view.

[Anonymous]

I’m not someone super sympathetic to the yacht crowd but the most horrible part of this story is that they could tell the people who drowned left their sleeping quarters and kept climbing to higher rooms as it sunk until they were finally trapped. So they had plenty of time to know what was happening and tried to flee, but then were dragged to the bottom of the ocean.

There was also a story about one woman who ended up in the ocean with her infant. She lost hold of and sight of her child for a few seconds, but managed to grab the baby and hold her afloat until a rescue boat arrived. As a mother I cannot imagine the helplessness and terror of losing track of your baby in the ocean and then trying to tread water while keeping their head above water. Absolute nightmare fuel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What pretentious git named this boat? Sad

I thought it was an Armenian name.

Mr. Inference, your room is ready.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one deserves to die like this, but when you choose to engage in a risky activity with that kind of crowd in that kind of neighborhood, there are risks you implicitly accept.

Whether you like the “neighborhiid” or not is irrelevant. The yacht next door and it's occupants were unharmed. That’s because captain of the ship next to the Bayesian, the Robert Baden Powell, turn Ed his boat towards the wind.

Was the Captain f the Bayesian taking every reason a B,e measure possible to keep everyone e safe? Was the guy on watch alert? Wre any of the crew drinking?

The answers to those questions will determine whether they are found criminally negligent.

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Anonymous wrote:The two accidents seemed too connected to be coincidence, but I didn't follow through to get any details or learn if foul play was suspected in either incident.

In other words, you think one of the people involved can control the weather?

Most marine experts agree that that weather event wouldn’t have been sufficient to sink a boat that size unless there was something else going on.

Link?

Suitably weasel worded: "most" and "experts." Usually that means two people who have seen a boat from a distance and run a YouTube channel.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg343vjwklo.amp

The experts don't support the idea that the weather couldn't sink the boat. Did you post the right link to the right experts?

But experts have told the BBC that this was likely a "black swan" occurrence of freak weather - and that no-one is necessarily at fault.

I thought they were looking into the possibility that a hatch was open and the keel being partly raised. Another captain nearby said he started his engines to stabilize his boat, don’t know if this boat did the same. Apparently the Bayesian captain is being super cooperative though.

I think experts have guessed the keel being raised wasn’t the issue, but yes somehow water definitely poured in. Not sure about the hatches yet.

[Anonymous]

I feel terrible for the crew, and that's it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one deserves to die like this, but when you choose to engage in a risky activity with that kind of crowd in that kind of neighborhood, there are risks you implicitly accept.

Whether you like the “neighborhiid” or not is irrelevant. The yacht next door and it's occupants were unharmed. That’s because captain of the ship next to the Bayesian, the Robert Baden Powell, turn Ed his boat towards the wind.

Was the Captain f the Bayesian taking every reason a B,e measure possible to keep everyone e safe? Was the guy on watch alert? Wre any of the crew drinking?

The answers to those questions will determine whether they are found criminally negligent.

Have you ever seen the scene after a tornado? Houses ripped to shreds but one left standing and unharmed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The name isn’t the problem. It was that the mast had to be the tallest single mast in the world.

It wasn’t rigged for sail while sitting at anchor, so I don’t understand why you think that is somehow damning.

So it’s the tallest sloop ever made. Ok? And?

It’s basically a scaled-up design, so nothing about it is exactly bleeding edge design. I would argue the retractable keel, assuming it’s retracted while at anchor, which it probably is, is more at-fault than the mast.

Even with sails down the mast and huge boom might have contributed to this boat reaching its tipping point and unable to reset

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel terrible for the crew, and that's it.

I feel terrible for all, but also very worried the crew won’t get a fair shake here. The builder has already gone on the offensive to deflect blame

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not someone super sympathetic to the yacht crowd but the most horrible part of this story is that they could tell the people who drowned left their sleeping quarters and kept climbing to higher rooms as it sunk until they were finally trapped. So they had plenty of time to know what was happening and tried to flee, but then were dragged to the bottom of the ocean.

There was also a story about one woman who ended up in the ocean with her infant. She lost hold of and sight of her child for a few seconds, but managed to grab the baby and hold her afloat until a rescue boat arrived. As a mother I cannot imagine the helplessness and terror of losing track of your baby in the ocean and then trying to tread water while keeping their head above water. Absolute nightmare fuel.

It’s horrific to contemplate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aren’t crew quarters generally below guest suites? How did most of the crew survive but the guests did not?

Uh- working?

+1 Crew was awake working and had a few minutes to get out. The guests who died were asleep and couldn't move fast enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What pretentious git named this boat? Sad

I thought it was an Armenian name.

Bayesian usually refers to a method related to statistical inference/probabilities being updated. But maybe it's someone's family name involved here...

[Anonymous]

Look, it was a black swan tornado event. They can point fingers in all directions, but it won't be fair to blame either the builder or the staff. It won't bring back the dead regardless of who they were.

[Anonymous]

The chef died. In the galley. RIP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What pretentious git named this boat? Sad

I thought it was an Armenian name.

Bayesian usually refers to a method related to statistical inference/probabilities being updated. But maybe it's someone's family name involved here...

I was joking. I don’t think these people were Armenian or Armenian-adjacent.