Algebra 2 after summer geometry: online or in person?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

How so?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

How so?

They had to rearrange other classes to free a teacher in order to teach the Algebra 2 class. So kids from a different math class, probably Algebra 1, had to be shifted into other math classes to make a class for 8 kids who took Geometry in the summer. You don’t know how many kids where in that group but it means that the other math kids are now in larger classes to make space for 8 kids to take Algebra 2.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

How so?

They had to rearrange other classes to free a teacher in order to teach the Algebra 2 class. So kids from a different math class, probably Algebra 1, had to be shifted into other math classes to make a class for 8 kids who took Geometry in the summer. You don’t know how many kids where in that group but it means that the other math kids are now in larger classes to make space for 8 kids to take Algebra 2.

You don’t know that this is what happened. They could have just added another section to a teacher’s load.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

How so?

They had to rearrange other classes to free a teacher in order to teach the Algebra 2 class. So kids from a different math class, probably Algebra 1, had to be shifted into other math classes to make a class for 8 kids who took Geometry in the summer. You don’t know how many kids where in that group but it means that the other math kids are now in larger classes to make space for 8 kids to take Algebra 2.

You don’t know that this is what happened. They could have just added another section to a teacher’s load.

They did not hire a Teacher to teach one section of Algebra 2. Schedules had to be adjusted to add this class. So a Teacher lost a planning period or kids were shifted from a section of a different class. Overall, something was done that increases a teachers burden, probably multiple teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Actually a more likely outcome is that as more people take it routinely, middle schools are more likely to make it available on a regular basis. It is , for instance, always available in person at schools like Longfellow and Cooper. This is the direction of travel.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Meh. You have no evidence that the kid shortchanged math. Some of the kids in summer geometry already took AoPS Geometry, which is much more comprehensive than FCPS geometry.
Admit it. You hate seeing kids accelerate because you're afraid that your kid will look worse in comparison. Math is one of the few areas where mastery of fundamentals can be objectively measured. There's no reason for all of the handwringing about 'hyperacceleration' or fundamentals. The people complaining about math acceleration are just upset to see other kids surpassing their kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Actually a more likely outcome is that as more people take it routinely, middle schools are more likely to make it available on a regular basis. It is , for instance, always available in person at schools like Longfellow and Cooper. This is the direction of travel.

It's funny how some pyramids advertise the availability of summer geometry and others have no clue. For anyone wondering why seats at TJ have to be allocated by MS, this is a great example of how FCPS allows some schools to push students and other schools to pretend options aren't available

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Meh. You have no evidence that the kid shortchanged math. Some of the kids in summer geometry already took AoPS Geometry, which is much more comprehensive than FCPS geometry.
Admit it. You hate seeing kids accelerate because you're afraid that your kid will look worse in comparison. Math is one of the few areas where mastery of fundamentals can be objectively measured. There's no reason for all of the handwringing about 'hyperacceleration' or fundamentals. The people complaining about math acceleration are just upset to see other kids surpassing their kid.

If the kid was really accelerated, they would be on pace to take geometry in 7th and algebra 2 in 8th. This is a kid on a normal track taking summer school and then expecting the school to create a class section to indulge them

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Meh. You have no evidence that the kid shortchanged math. Some of the kids in summer geometry already took AoPS Geometry, which is much more comprehensive than FCPS geometry.
Admit it. You hate seeing kids accelerate because you're afraid that your kid will look worse in comparison. Math is one of the few areas where mastery of fundamentals can be objectively measured. There's no reason for all of the handwringing about 'hyperacceleration' or fundamentals. The people complaining about math acceleration are just upset to see other kids surpassing their kid.

If the kid was really accelerated, they would be on pace to take geometry in 7th and algebra 2 in 8th. This is a kid on a normal track taking summer school and then expecting the school to create a class section to indulge them

There are degrees of acceleration, it’s not a pass/fail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Actually a more likely outcome is that as more people take it routinely, middle schools are more likely to make it available on a regular basis. It is , for instance, always available in person at schools like Longfellow and Cooper. This is the direction of travel.

It's funny how some pyramids advertise the availability of summer geometry and others have no clue. For anyone wondering why seats at TJ have to be allocated by MS, this is a great example of how FCPS allows some schools to push students and other schools to pretend options aren't available

It’s not pushing to let the kids know a summer class is available.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An update: after a meeting with the principal and head counselor where the parents of rising 8th graders made their concerns known, the school made the decision to offer Algebra 2 in person this year. A great outcome and much appreciation for the flexibility and openness KMS showed. It really is a very good school.

Great. Kids who really need resources get fewer so that your UMC snowflakes aren't inconvenienced in the slightest by the consequences of your own poor choices. Yay!

You have such venom for advanced students…why?

Shortchanging math does no good and is emblematic of education being about ‘winning’ and not about learning. There is no reason to cram a year’s worth of fundamental math into six weeks. Until there are real immediate consequences for people doing so (as opposed to the later gaps that might not be noticed for years), people will continue to do so.

Actually a more likely outcome is that as more people take it routinely, middle schools are more likely to make it available on a regular basis. It is , for instance, always available in person at schools like Longfellow and Cooper. This is the direction of travel.

It's funny how some pyramids advertise the availability of summer geometry and others have no clue. For anyone wondering why seats at TJ have to be allocated by MS, this is a great example of how FCPS allows some schools to push students and other schools to pretend options aren't available

It’s not pushing to let the kids know a summer class is available.

It is when only certain pyramids even acknowledge its existence let alone promote it enough to be able to offer algebra 2 in school

[Anonymous]

Ha. My kid goes to Kilmer and hope won't be impacted by a larger Algebra 1 class.