Biden weighing whether to drop out

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Anonymous wrote:the dems can't f their way out of a paper bag.
whatever choice they make will suck just like letting bernie get so far was stupid and having harris be the vp and then having harris be ignored as vp was stupid. these people are not capable of anything.

Bernie isn't and wasn't a democrat. You can't on the one side claim that the decks were cleared for Hillary but then also lob this complaint about Bernie.

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Anonymous wrote:They'd have to push Harris out. She isn't popular with anyone

Elie Mystal is good at being cute with his words - but he's wrong about this. VPs are not president material. They're the opposite. They're chosen as VP because they're not threatening.

She can stay on as the new VP. Someone better can be the new presidential candidate.

Ok. Hakeem Jeffries for president then

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they should first of all fire every one of biden's advisors, his entire digital team, his comms team. Like - no. This is a defcon 5 level of ineptitude and we're going to have a crazed monster with impunity as our despotic lead instead and everyone is going to suffer while the planet burns.

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Anonymous wrote:This could really shake things up for the better.

The Democratic Party would be incredibly energized by a different candidate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/biden-election-debate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4U0.u6om.bI5zjUacVqqL&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

This is malarkey. It's one of those fake news planted stories that is trying to create an outcome rather than reporting on facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why earlier in the Spring Biden didn't issue a statement about his age, saying nobody should seek reelection over a certain age, time to retire and enjoy the grandkids. That would have left Trump looking like selfish old shit as the old one in the race, and made way for a new candidate to get excited about without the humiliation for Biden of being forced out.

You guys still don't understand that the age thing is specific to Biden - Trump doesn't present as old and saying that he's only 3 years younger than Biden or whatever isn't helping you.

DP. hate to agree with this, but it's true. It was extremely apparent at the debate last week. Trump clearly has some issues, but the delta to his previous incoherent self is smaller.

"had some issues"

Like every time he opened his mouth, he told a lie? Ya, those are some issues. He is detached from reality, and yet no one is telling the GOP to change its candidate and the corporate media sure aren't banging the drum about it. Why the double standard?

Yes - it's absolutely astounding that we aren't seeing the same outcry for Trump to drop out of the race given that absolutely outrageous stream of nonstop lies and distortions. It was undeniably a complete gish gallop of provable bullshit. I've had ENOUGH of this "yabut we expect better of Biden" crap. EXPECT BETTER OF REPUBLICANS!!!!

Stop yelling at people. Many of us agree with your basic premise but you keep yelling at us. No one likes it.

And yes, more should be demanded of the GOP but they own the media and have rigged multiple systems to insulate themselves from their losses. So we can only take care of our own party (and even within that it’s not like we have a lot of control).

No. As long as I keep seeing a lack of better expectations from the GOP I'm going to damn well keep yelling. Getting people annoyed is the point. We can't stop until there's an actual change that happens. I, and my yelling, are not the problem here. The problem is with the political officials, the media, and so on. We damn well should be yelling at them, shaming them, exposing them, going after them with legal means when they have committed crimes, doing it every waking minute of every single day. They are the ones who need to be held accountable, not me.

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I think he is going to drop out. He should do it tomorrow. People would be super grateful and he would go out with the respect and gratitude of everyone normal. History would remember him well.

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Anonymous wrote:They'd have to push Harris out. She isn't popular with anyone

Elie Mystal is good at being cute with his words - but he's wrong about this. VPs are not president material. They're the opposite. They're chosen as VP because they're not threatening.

She can stay on as the new VP. Someone better can be the new presidential candidate.

Well it worked for Biden, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester A. Arthur, Theodore Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Harry S. Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson, and Gerald Ford.

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Anonymous wrote:This could really shake things up for the better.

The Democratic Party would be incredibly energized by a different candidate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/03/us/politics/biden-election-debate.html?unlocked_article_code=1.4U0.u6om.bI5zjUacVqqL&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

This is malarkey. It's one of those fake news planted stories that is trying to create an outcome rather than reporting on facts.

You're supporting an impaired individual who clings to power. Not a good look.

[Anonymous]

This is hilarious. Kamala is stupider that Weekend at Joe.

Happy 4th of July! Too bad this didn’t happen during Pride month

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is going to drop out. He should do it tomorrow. People would be super grateful and he would go out with the respect and gratitude of everyone normal. History would remember him well.

Are you all planning another primary? Or a back room coronation?

Primary. It would really energize things.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why earlier in the Spring Biden didn't issue a statement about his age, saying nobody should seek reelection over a certain age, time to retire and enjoy the grandkids. That would have left Trump looking like selfish old shit as the old one in the race, and made way for a new candidate to get excited about without the humiliation for Biden of being forced out.

You guys still don't understand that the age thing is specific to Biden - Trump doesn't present as old and saying that he's only 3 years younger than Biden or whatever isn't helping you.

DP. hate to agree with this, but it's true. It was extremely apparent at the debate last week. Trump clearly has some issues, but the delta to his previous incoherent self is smaller.

"had some issues"

Like every time he opened his mouth, he told a lie? Ya, those are some issues. He is detached from reality, and yet no one is telling the GOP to change its candidate and the corporate media sure aren't banging the drum about it. Why the double standard?

Yes - it's absolutely astounding that we aren't seeing the same outcry for Trump to drop out of the race given that absolutely outrageous stream of nonstop lies and distortions. It was undeniably a complete gish gallop of provable bullshit. I've had ENOUGH of this "yabut we expect better of Biden" crap. EXPECT BETTER OF REPUBLICANS!!!!

Stop yelling at people. Many of us agree with your basic premise but you keep yelling at us. No one likes it.

And yes, more should be demanded of the GOP but they own the media and have rigged multiple systems to insulate themselves from their losses. So we can only take care of our own party (and even within that it’s not like we have a lot of control).

The difference is that Biden is barely tolerated among democrats and Trump is vastly loved among republicans. And I am not talking about DNC and GOP, I am talking about actual voters.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is going to drop out. He should do it tomorrow. People would be super grateful and he would go out with the respect and gratitude of everyone normal. History would remember him well.

Are you all planning another primary? Or a back room coronation?

Do you want what is best for the republic or your ego

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get why earlier in the Spring Biden didn't issue a statement about his age, saying nobody should seek reelection over a certain age, time to retire and enjoy the grandkids. That would have left Trump looking like selfish old shit as the old one in the race, and made way for a new candidate to get excited about without the humiliation for Biden of being forced out.

You guys still don't understand that the age thing is specific to Biden - Trump doesn't present as old and saying that he's only 3 years younger than Biden or whatever isn't helping you.

DP. hate to agree with this, but it's true. It was extremely apparent at the debate last week. Trump clearly has some issues, but the delta to his previous incoherent self is smaller.

"had some issues"

Like every time he opened his mouth, he told a lie? Ya, those are some issues. He is detached from reality, and yet no one is telling the GOP to change its candidate and the corporate media sure aren't banging the drum about it. Why the double standard?

Yes - it's absolutely astounding that we aren't seeing the same outcry for Trump to drop out of the race given that absolutely outrageous stream of nonstop lies and distortions. It was undeniably a complete gish gallop of provable bullshit. I've had ENOUGH of this "yabut we expect better of Biden" crap. EXPECT BETTER OF REPUBLICANS!!!!

Stop yelling at people. Many of us agree with your basic premise but you keep yelling at us. No one likes it.

And yes, more should be demanded of the GOP but they own the media and have rigged multiple systems to insulate themselves from their losses. So we can only take care of our own party (and even within that it’s not like we have a lot of control).

No. As long as I keep seeing a lack of better expectations from the GOP I'm going to damn well keep yelling. Getting people annoyed is the point. We can't stop until there's an actual change that happens. I, and my yelling, are not the problem here. The problem is with the political officials, the media, and so on. We damn well should be yelling at them, shaming them, exposing them, going after them with legal means when they have committed crimes, doing it every waking minute of every single day. They are the ones who need to be held accountable, not me.

Your yelling isn’t helping. At all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/557282-vp-harris-not-discounting-concerns-about-events-at-us-border-during/damp/?nxs-test=damp


Not too long ago it was suggested Biden dump Harris as she was a drag on his re-election due to her being polar and having horrible approval ratings. Now you see her as a strong candidate? Laughable.🙄

From the article "I care about, listen, I care about what’s happening at the border,” Harris responded. “I’m in Guatemala because my focus is dealing with the root causes of migration. There may be some who think that that is not important, but it is my firm belief that if we care about what’s happening at the border, we better care about the root causes and address them. And so that’s what I’m doing.”"

I totally agree with this position and now like her even more. Harris 2024 would be fantastic!!!

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Anonymous wrote:They'd have to push Harris out. She isn't popular with anyone

Harris didn’t even talk up her Black side until she started running for office. She is biracial and is half Indian and keeps in contact with that side of the family more than her father’s side. This effort to make her “the first Black woman” president is missleading and cynical. She’s the first Indian American president with a Jamaican father who doesn’t like her.