Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...

[Anonymous]

7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

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Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

Yes, this. I posted up thread that 7% is HUGE!

[Anonymous]

That 7% isn’t about who they would vote for in the general election. It’s about whether or not they believe Joe is up for the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.

I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

It definitely does matter. The complexion of the 2024 race changed from close to 50/50 odds between Trump and Biden to Trump being the clear favorite at this point in time. If Biden does the right thing by stepping down, the replacement Dem candidate will immediately become the clear favorite over Trump so all we can do is hope Biden puts his ego aside to do what is best for the country.

[Anonymous]

This CBS News/YouGov survey is based on a national sample of 1,130 registered voters who were contacted between June 28-29, 2024. All respondents participated in an earlier national survey of 1,881 registered voters fielded June 17-21, 2024. The sample was weighted by gender, age, race, and education, based on the U.S. Census American Community Survey and Current Population Survey, as well as past vote and partisan identification and weighted to account for differential response rates. The margin of error for the sample of registered voters is ±4.2 points.

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Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

Considering the two candidates, I will pick someone whose cognitive health is not 100% over a ranting, narcissistic, lying convicted felon and convicted rapist every day.

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Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

It definitely does matter. The complexion of the 2024 race changed from close to 50/50 odds between Trump and Biden to Trump being the clear favorite at this point in time. If Biden does the right thing by stepping down, the replacement Dem candidate will immediately become the clear favorite over Trump so all we can do is hope Biden puts his ego aside to do what is best for the country.

It is not true that a new Democrat presidential candidate would be the favorite over trump. All of those mentioned trail trump by 3 or more points.

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Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.

I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.

Do you need the EC explained to you?

If 33,000 votes across 3 states were different in 2020 Trump would have won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, DCUM is much better informed on policy and insider politics than the rest of the US.

It doesn't mean they put country over party. It doesn't mean they can't be massive hypocrites when they want to.

Because Biden leads a party whose values align with their own, a lot of posters wave away his decline. It's a grave mistake. It makes them no better than conservatives putting up with Trump because they want to further a conservative agenda.

We should get a new Dem candidate ASAP.

+1 Exactly. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Biden had a "dies horribilis" but trump's litany of lies was a trillion times worse. Every newspaper in the country should be calling for the GOP to remove trump because he is a liar, convicted felon, convicted rapist.
Biden can come back but trump is forever nothing more then a common criminal.

I hope Judge Merchan gives him a year in prison to be served at Rikers.

[Anonymous]

The bedwetting brigade that spent the weekend running around screaming that the sky is falling has some egg on their faces.

Biden is cogent and his first term has been an unqualified success. Here's to 4 more years, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.

I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.

Do you need the EC explained to you?

If 33,000 votes across 3 states were different in 2020 Trump would have won.

I am good thanks. I am referring to popular votes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

It definitely does matter. The complexion of the 2024 race changed from close to 50/50 odds between Trump and Biden to Trump being the clear favorite at this point in time. If Biden does the right thing by stepping down, the replacement Dem candidate will immediately become the clear favorite over Trump so all we can do is hope Biden puts his ego aside to do what is best for the country.

It is not true that a new Democrat presidential candidate would be the favorite over trump. All of those mentioned trail trump by 3 or more points.

1st of all, the only legitimate 2024 POTUS election polls are for the presumed Trump vs Biden match-up because they are the presumed major party nominees. 2nd of all and more importantly, do you really think the swing voters that will decide this election are stupid enough to vote for an elderly felon that was a complete failure when he had the job previously over a normal, fit candidate? No, they aren't that stupid. Anyone who thinks a majority of swing voters would vote for Trump over a normal candidate does not understand the current dynamics of politics in the US. The sheep that vote red or blue no matter what every election are our biggest political problem. Thank god we have the swing voters that actually vote based on a common sense assessment of the candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.

maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.

I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.

Do you need the EC explained to you?

If 33,000 votes across 3 states were different in 2020 Trump would have won.

I am good thanks. I am referring to popular votes.

Why is the popular vote even worth mentioning?