Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...

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Anonymous wrote:After the Trump-Biden debate, I watched the first Kennedy-Nixon debate on YouTube. It’s hard to believe we’ve fallen so far as a nation. Kennedy and Nixon were both well prepared, congenial, deferential and spoke directly to the camera without using notes. Contrast that with mush-for-brains Biden and five-hundred-word vocabulary lying sack of sh!t Trump.

Politicians don't even sell themselves. The most recent debate was basically
Trump: vote me because he sucks
Biden: vote me because he sucks
Nothing about personal qualities, why they should lead the United States of America, just blabbering about the other.

This year's election inspires the best bumper stickers:

Biden: He's not that far gone

Trump: Let's finally get this over with

This in insane that we have to deal with Trump for a third election in a row. It’s too much misery.

Yes. The misery quotient is far too high. And it’s only the beginning of July. Hopefully Biden will go for his George Washington moment and say goodbye. Maybe tomorrow on Independence Day??

That leaves four months until the election. Plenty of time. No other country in the world drags elections out as long as we do.

Then the Republican Party can mull what it wants to do.

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Anonymous wrote:After the Trump-Biden debate, I watched the first Kennedy-Nixon debate on YouTube. It’s hard to believe we’ve fallen so far as a nation. Kennedy and Nixon were both well prepared, congenial, deferential and spoke directly to the camera without using notes. Contrast that with mush-for-brains Biden and five-hundred-word vocabulary lying sack of sh!t Trump.

Politicians don't even sell themselves. The most recent debate was basically
Trump: vote me because he sucks
Biden: vote me because he sucks
Nothing about personal qualities, why they should lead the United States of America, just blabbering about the other.

This year's election inspires the best bumper stickers:

Biden: He's not that far gone

Trump: Let's finally get this over with

This in insane that we have to deal with Trump for a third election in a row. It’s too much misery.

Yes. The misery quotient is far too high. And it’s only the beginning of July. Hopefully Biden will go for his George Washington moment and say goodbye. Maybe tomorrow on Independence Day??

That leaves four months until the election. Plenty of time. No other country in the world drags elections out as long as we do.

Then the Republican Party can mull what it wants to do.

What does this mean? Republicans aren’t mulling anything. Trump is there candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

When one side is a cult and the other isn't, of course you will see this kind of movement. YOu don't see ANY GOP bailing on Trump for his incessant lies or desire to be an autocrat.

Just wait until Biden's replacement suddenly has a commanding lead in the polls. You'll then see some regret from the GOP for foolishly nominating Trump for a third consecutive time but by then it will be too late for them to make a change. No one likes a guaranteed loser.

I'm putting exactly zero eggs into the "unnamed mystery candidate" basket

Said candidate does not exist. Said candidate needed to get his or her ass in gear A YEAR AGO.

They'll come out like ants after their pile has been stepped on once Biden's announces his plans to withdraw for the race. The announcement will serve as their permission to run. We just need one average candidate to squash Trump.

Name one replacement candidate who has won.

Switching horses mid-race has rarely, if ever, worked out well. And let's be honest, some of it may be genuine from Dems, but there is also a lot of fake concern trolling coming from the right wing which is grossly exaggerating Biden's supposed incapacitation. I actually heard someone here on DCUM say "vegetative" earlier today. FFS, the man is absolutely NOT "vegetative."

Umm those with hopes of Trump winning are hoping Biden stays in the race because Biden is one of the few people on Earth Trump can beat. Are you familiar with Trump and is awfulness? Trump has restrained himself from criticizing Biden since last week's debate for this reason.

Yes, Trump is awful. But again, you are underestimating how many entrenched/delusional/denialistic people there are who will vote for Trump no matter what the Democrats come up with.

Yes, we know those people and there aren't enough of them to elect Trump without the help of the swing/independent voters.

How will Trump win these people? None of this makes any sense. All of his/Rs platforms are terrible. Trump is not an unknown and was a total disaster before.

There is a podcast called the focus group. You can listen to what real people think about Trump and why they support him.
It’s enlightening.
And upsetting.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:After the Trump-Biden debate, I watched the first Kennedy-Nixon debate on YouTube. It’s hard to believe we’ve fallen so far as a nation. Kennedy and Nixon were both well prepared, congenial, deferential and spoke directly to the camera without using notes. Contrast that with mush-for-brains Biden and five-hundred-word vocabulary lying sack of sh!t Trump.

Politicians don't even sell themselves. The most recent debate was basically
Trump: vote me because he sucks
Biden: vote me because he sucks
Nothing about personal qualities, why they should lead the United States of America, just blabbering about the other.

This year's election inspires the best bumper stickers:

Biden: He's not that far gone

Trump: Let's finally get this over with

This in insane that we have to deal with Trump for a third election in a row. It’s too much misery.

Yes. The misery quotient is far too high. And it’s only the beginning of July. Hopefully Biden will go for his George Washington moment and say goodbye. Maybe tomorrow on Independence Day??

That leaves four months until the election. Plenty of time. No other country in the world drags elections out as long as we do.

Then the Republican Party can mull what it wants to do.

Misery would be seeing the country handed to Trump on a silver platter.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

When one side is a cult and the other isn't, of course you will see this kind of movement. YOu don't see ANY GOP bailing on Trump for his incessant lies or desire to be an autocrat.

Just wait until Biden's replacement suddenly has a commanding lead in the polls. You'll then see some regret from the GOP for foolishly nominating Trump for a third consecutive time but by then it will be too late for them to make a change. No one likes a guaranteed loser.

I'm putting exactly zero eggs into the "unnamed mystery candidate" basket

Said candidate does not exist. Said candidate needed to get his or her ass in gear A YEAR AGO.

They'll come out like ants after their pile has been stepped on once Biden's announces his plans to withdraw for the race. The announcement will serve as their permission to run. We just need one average candidate to squash Trump.

Name one replacement candidate who has won.

Switching horses mid-race has rarely, if ever, worked out well. And let's be honest, some of it may be genuine from Dems, but there is also a lot of fake concern trolling coming from the right wing which is grossly exaggerating Biden's supposed incapacitation. I actually heard someone here on DCUM say "vegetative" earlier today. FFS, the man is absolutely NOT "vegetative."

Umm those with hopes of Trump winning are hoping Biden stays in the race because Biden is one of the few people on Earth Trump can beat. Are you familiar with Trump and is awfulness? Trump has restrained himself from criticizing Biden since last week's debate for this reason.

Yes, Trump is awful. But again, you are underestimating how many entrenched/delusional/denialistic people there are who will vote for Trump no matter what the Democrats come up with.

Yes, we know those people and there aren't enough of them to elect Trump without the help of the swing/independent voters.

How will Trump win these people? None of this makes any sense. All of his/Rs platforms are terrible. Trump is not an unknown and was a total disaster before.

There is a podcast called the focus group. You can listen to what real people think about Trump and why they support him.
It’s enlightening.
And upsetting.