Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...

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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t ignorance. It’s just that we didn’t care if he had good days or bad days as an old man. Biden + his team have passed a sh#t ton of legislation.

DCUM is more likely to care about policy outcomes than your average internet hivemind.

Biden hasn’t passed legislation, he’s read a teleprompter while unknown individuals craft policy and make executive decisions.

You’re smoking more crack than Hunter.

American Rescue Act

Bipartisan Infrastructure Act
(if you’ve been tangentially involved in DC you’ll know that both sides of the aisle have been trying to get this done since the Obama administration!)

CHIPS Act

Inflation Reduction Act

Support for Israel and Ukraine

Those are the big ones. Infrastructure act alone would be the capstone to any 4-year term in office for any POTUS.

Biden didn’t pass those. Congress did. And who knows what involvement he had in crafting it. Did Jill hold his hand to help him sign?

That’s what she has to do now.

The only Democrat voters who will vote for Biden or the unelected are Democrats who don’t care about voting. That’s a lot of Democrats but it’s not me.

And if you know anything about modern American politics, you would know that the White House is always involved with landmark legislation, particularly in a divided congress. The GOP who supported these bills credited Biden's years as a Senator and willingness to add components to the legislation for their support.

Ask yourself this...other than tax cuts, what meaningful legislation was passed during the Trump years?

First Step Act

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

That's intelligent.

As intelligent as MAGAs devoted to a convicted rapist and felon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

That's intelligent.

It is. Very. Biden will serve this country better than trump despite his age. That is the calculation for every voter. If you look at these two men and their administrations and choose trump, you are making a foolish choice.

Did you watch the debate? Trump stood there and spouted total nonsense for 90 minutes. He does not give a crap about this country.

I’m not sure you are right:

Economy / inflation - I don’t blame Biden for inflation (it’s the COVID hangover) but many voters do
Foreign wars - Biden is all in on continuing to send $$ out of the country
Hands off my body - SC justices will cling on for 4 more years

Also, I’m not convinced Biden is up for the challenge of beating Trump. I think any alternative D has a better chance.

Foreign wars - Biden is all in on continuing to send $$ out of the country

It is better than sending our young men and women overseas to fight these battles.

I suppose the GOP would rather just let Russia take Ukraine and then NATO countries and China to take Taiwan. That seems to be the rhetoric these days.

I should also add, the money isn't being sent out of the country. There aren't plats of cash being shipped abroad. the money is in the form of amrs produced in the US and then shipped abroad. So that is American jobs and American productivity.

Just think about this for a moment: We are creating a weapons manufacturing economy. That money could be spent creating investing in projects/organizations in the healthcare or education or infrastructure sectors instead. However, under the Biden admin we have made an alternative choice: investment in weapon manufacturers richer. Is this really what you want?

And the alternative is not sending American solders overseas. It’s understanding we should invest in our sphere of influence and let other countries across the sea do the same.

Did you know that China has funded a 24/7 Library in El Salvador? Imagine if we invested in things like that in Latin and South America. Not only would it win hearts and minds it would also make it less compelling for illegal immigrants to cross our borders.

This is who we are paying: https://www1.salary.com/LOCKHEED-MARTIN-CORP-Executive-Salaries.html

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/who-we-are/leadership-governance/frank-st--john.html#:~:text=Follow%20on%20LinkedIn-,Frank%20St.,(COO)%20for%20Lockheed%20Martin.

You can see from the end of his bio that he won an award for improvement to precision airstrike attacks. Oh goodie - we are enriching the person whose life’s work is responsible for killing thousands (hundreds of thousand) people.

I don’t think this policy choice of Biden’s is a winning one. He’s now lost me on the we must protect democracy too (bc clearly he is not in charge and it’s his advisors running things, that’s not democracy). So the only thing left for me is his stance on keeping government hands off my body. However, I’m not sure he can really move the needle on this (the SC justices will cling on).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

That's intelligent.

It is. Very. Biden will serve this country better than trump despite his age. That is the calculation for every voter. If you look at these two men and their administrations and choose trump, you are making a foolish choice.

Did you watch the debate? Trump stood there and spouted total nonsense for 90 minutes. He does not give a crap about this country.

Trump is a performer. Nonsense? Maybe by your definition, but I call it an embellishment of the truth. Kind of like exaggerating when you tell a story at a party. I am not a fan of Trump, but between the two, he's more competent for the job. Biden will not make it through his next term, if not to election day. It is a steep slope when you decline at that age.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

That's intelligent.

It is. Very. Biden will serve this country better than trump despite his age. That is the calculation for every voter. If you look at these two men and their administrations and choose trump, you are making a foolish choice.

Did you watch the debate? Trump stood there and spouted total nonsense for 90 minutes. He does not give a crap about this country.

Trump is a performer. Nonsense? Maybe by your definition, but I call it an embellishment of the truth. Kind of like exaggerating when you tell a story at a party. I am not a fan of Trump, but between the two, he's more competent for the job. Biden will not make it through his next term, if not to election day. It is a steep slope when you decline at that age.

The slope turns into a cliff, and then a pit.

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Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

Anyone not a diehard leftist themselves has probably picked up on this is in the past.

People were calling me a maga troll here when I said Biden would never win due to his age here months ago. I’ve voted blue for 30 years.

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Though I’d argue that 30 years makes me a diehard. I’m just more open to change (in the party) and want more for Dems.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

Anyone not a diehard leftist themselves has probably picked up on this is in the past.

People were calling me a maga troll here when I said Biden would never win due to his age here months ago. I’ve voted blue for 30 years.

Democrats bully their own to subvert elections. Stop letting them do that to you. Register as an independent and vote your conscience. That’s what I did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

That's intelligent.

As intelligent as MAGAs devoted to a convicted rapist and felon.

I don’t support Trump, but he’s not a convicted rapist. He was tried civilly. Had he been convicted criminally, he would be in jail or at least on probation. Rape is a violent offense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

Anyone not a diehard leftist themselves has probably picked up on this is in the past.

People were calling me a maga troll here when I said Biden would never win due to his age here months ago. I’ve voted blue for 30 years.

Democrats bully their own to subvert elections. Stop letting them do that to you. Register as an independent and vote your conscience. That’s what I did.

Exactly.

I have my attention on several people who are or have been mentioned as potential nominees during the primaries. I voted for one of them this year, unlike people with a herd mentality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

Anyone not a diehard leftist themselves has probably picked up on this is in the past.

People were calling me a maga troll here when I said Biden would never win due to his age here months ago. I’ve voted blue for 30 years.

This will be my first election in which I haven’t voted for the Democratic nominee in the general election since the first election I voted in. But obviously to the Democratic establishment, I don’t count and don’t matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

That's intelligent.

As intelligent as MAGAs devoted to a convicted rapist and felon.

I don’t support Trump, but he’s not a convicted rapist. He was tried civilly. Had he been convicted criminally, he would be in jail or at least on probation. Rape is a violent offense.

Excuses, excuses. Typical MAGA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Voting for him, or whoever the dem nominee is, no matter what.

Me too.

OP a bunch of people watched the debate and decided to go for Biden, something the media isn’t focusing on as it’s not part of their narrative. Trump lied (and admitted to treason again) throughout. Who wants that chaos wagon back?

[Anonymous]

"a bunch of people watched the debate and decided to go for Biden"

I don't buy this. There's no logic in this assertion.

-Biden 'supporter'

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.

65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%

https://mol.im/a/13585619

Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.

This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.

Anyone not a diehard leftist themselves has probably picked up on this is in the past.

People were calling me a maga troll here when I said Biden would never win due to his age here months ago. I’ve voted blue for 30 years.

Democrats bully their own to subvert elections. Stop letting them do that to you. Register as an independent and vote your conscience. That’s what I did.

I was an independent for years, but you can’t vote for the mayor in DC as an independent as it’s often picked in the primary. No GOP candidate. So, DH and I changed registration.

I’ve railed against people voting for Trump as the end justifying the means, and I don’t want to be a hypocrite. I’m furious that my GenZ kids don’t want to vote, and one will be in a swing state. We ignore them at our own peril.