It's been 10 years since our oldest graduated from high school. The most successful are

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The majority of top students from my high school peaked in high school. There are a rare few who became lawyers and doctors, but most top students ended up as nurses, teachers, or accountants. The C students have become anything from welder to lawyer to speech pathologist to mayor.

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Anonymous wrote:BS: how many people do you know their salaries, benefits, plans, savings, etc.? Stop guessing and presenting it at fact.

Go to the tops of mid-sized public companies and check out where those folks went to school. Law amd accounting firms probably stuff in all the ivys but there are SO MANY mid sized companies that dont.

Then OP is more of a loser than any of us could imagine.

Fwiw: my high stats kids will be at good colleges - one heading off to a top school in the fall, the other in HS. My second wants to go into a low paying field…but these kids are and will always be very wealthy. So I guess by this judgment, my high stats kid “failed” compared to peers, but this same kid will have a job that is loved and more money than can ever be used in a lifetime. Under this metric, no really smart kid would be a teacher, researcher, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:At age 27 or 28, what is the difference between a "great" and "normal" career?

Prestige advanced degree, living in a prestige expensive city, prestige job, and married well? DCUM is the most status obsessed striver forum on the internet and you wanna play dumb that you don’t know what doing great is. lol

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I kind of get what you’re saying, OP: it doesn’t really matter where ambitious kids go because they will likely be successful, no matter what; non-ambitious kids might remain non-ambitious, regardless where they went to school.

Not all kids will fall into either category. I was a crappy HS student, and a crappy college student, until I got my act together. I would say I’m pretty freakin’ successful now, though!

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Anonymous wrote:Correct. Ambitious kids become ambitious adults.

Yet you read college forums and it's full of fake anecdotes about all the smart kids cracking and bombing at college. It's all such a transparent cope from parents with average drifting kids.

Smart doesn't equal ambitious!

Ambitious kids don't bomb. "Smart" kids, as defined by test scores, bolstered by tutors and pushy parents bomb - they never had the drive in the first place. This is a no brainer.

This x1000. It’s not brains. Its ambition.

And there’s a large overlap between “brains” and ambition…

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100 years of behavioral genetic research supports this observation. Most of “success” is baked in the cake at the moment of conception.

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NP. This is such a DC take. Sometimes this board is so very provincial.

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I am just happy to hear that tiger mom’ing isn’t end all be all. You need to have the right material (which my kid definitely isn’t!)
Going back to my laid back parenting now. Have a great summer everyone!

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Anonymous wrote:100 years of behavioral genetic research supports this observation. Most of “success” is baked in the cake at the moment of conception.

Could you suggest some books please?

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Wow. This is so full of generalizations, inaccuracies and judgments. Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

Parents want their kids at elite colleges so they meet a (wealthy/ambitious) spouse. If your kid goes to Yale but returns home without a serious bf or gf, it was pointless.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. This is so full of generalizations, inaccuracies and judgments. Yikes!

Oh, OP is just one of DCUM’s deranged anti-athlete posters. They start threads all the time like this. To be honest, I find the threads entertaining because the crazies out quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Correct. Ambitious kids become ambitious adults.

Yet you read college forums and it's full of fake anecdotes about all the smart kids cracking and bombing at college. It's all such a transparent cope from parents with average drifting kids.

Smart doesn't equal ambitious!

Ambitious kids don't bomb. "Smart" kids, as defined by test scores, bolstered by tutors and pushy parents bomb - they never had the drive in the first place. This is a no brainer.

This x1000. It’s not brains. Its ambition.

And there’s a large overlap between “brains” and ambition…

This. My ivy kid’s peers almost all have both in spades. No doubt many will be doctors, lawyers, researchers, CEOs, etc, because that is what the majority do from Ivies and the like.

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Anonymous wrote:My anecdote - my husband and I graduated from a school that most here would think sucks (I’ve actually been told my degree isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, right here on DCUM!). We have friends who graduated from an Ivy that live close by. Neither one of them are doing anything groundbreaking, or are leaders in their field, or are raking in big bucks. We are both living comfortable happy lives. Between the 4 of us there is an MD (me), PhD (husband of the other couple) and 2 Masters degrees (my husband).
I always wonder what the Ivy experience gave them that we didn’t have, that improved their lives more than if they hadn’t gone to an Ivy. But I guess we’ll never know.

But it gave them the brand....

And what does/did that get them?

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Interesting. The thanks for posting OP