It's been 10 years since our oldest graduated from high school. The most successful are

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

The upper classes all over the US actually do marry in their mid to late 20s, statistically. It the middle and UMC that marry in their early to mid 30s. The LC marry young and multiple times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

Grown and flown? Our youngest is a high school senior.

Defensive Weirdos on here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My anecdote - my husband and I graduated from a school that most here would think sucks (I’ve actually been told my degree isn’t worth the paper it’s written on, right here on DCUM!). We have friends who graduated from an Ivy that live close by. Neither one of them are doing anything groundbreaking, or are leaders in their field, or are raking in big bucks. We are both living comfortable happy lives. Between the 4 of us there is an MD (me), PhD (husband of the other couple) and 2 Masters degrees (my husband).
I always wonder what the Ivy experience gave them that we didn’t have, that improved their lives more than if they hadn’t gone to an Ivy. But I guess we’ll never know.

But it gave them the brand....

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

The upper classes all over the US actually do marry in their mid to late 20s, statistically. It the middle and UMC that marry in their early to mid 30s. The LC marry young and multiple times.

Ummm. Try again. And this tells us you are an immigrant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

The upper classes all over the US actually do marry in their mid to late 20s, statistically. It the middle and UMC that marry in their early to mid 30s. The LC marry young and multiple times.

Asian?
South Asian?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Correct. Ambitious kids become ambitious adults.

Yet you read college forums and it's full of fake anecdotes about all the smart kids cracking and bombing at college. It's all such a transparent cope from parents with average drifting kids.

Smart doesn't equal ambitious!

Ambitious kids don't bomb. "Smart" kids, as defined by test scores, bolstered by tutors and pushy parents bomb - they never had the drive in the first place. This is a no brainer.

Smart ambitious kids really don’t crash and burn. That’s just a fake smear (and cope) spammed on forums like this by parents with dime a dozen above average kids. We know smart ambitious kids that had serious health issues, had a parent die while they were in college, all sorts of personal tragedies — and they still soared through college.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

The upper classes all over the US actually do marry in their mid to late 20s, statistically. It the middle and UMC that marry in their early to mid 30s. The LC marry young and multiple times.

Ummm. Try again. And this tells us you are an immigrant.

Yep! My family immigrated on the Mayflower. You're exactly correct!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

The upper classes all over the US actually do marry in their mid to late 20s, statistically. It the middle and UMC that marry in their early to mid 30s. The LC marry young and multiple times.

Ummm. Try again. And this tells us you are an immigrant.

You’re projecting, probably because you married late or your kids are still drifting. Smart annd ambitious Gen Zs are marrying much earlier than Gen Y millennials.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Correct. Ambitious kids become ambitious adults.

+1
Wow! This sounds like ground breaking rocket science! I wonder how OP came up with such unique insight that no one ever could have predicted.

And yet, this forum is chock full of posters who claim that T20’s matter and the difference between #5 and #60 can’t even be articulated because it’s THAT GOOD, and if you don’t get in and end up at a state school your kid is a will never have the chops/connections/drive to “make it.” Wonder why that is…

This forum is full of status obsessed social climbers who deluded themselves into believing kids at prestige colleges makes their family look upper caste. By hook or by crook they will con their kid into a hyper selective college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Correct. Ambitious kids become ambitious adults.

+1
Wow! This sounds like ground breaking rocket science! I wonder how OP came up with such unique insight that no one ever could have predicted.

And yet, this forum is chock full of posters who claim that T20’s matter and the difference between #5 and #60 can’t even be articulated because it’s THAT GOOD, and if you don’t get in and end up at a state school your kid is a will never have the chops/connections/drive to “make it.” Wonder why that is…

So true!

And here's me with my 'Large Regional State' degree and high income and wealth (1%). I graduated magna cum laude from this Nothing State University. But hey, when your at the top of a class of 30k students, you tend to stand out. Had I gone to Harvard I'd probably be middle of the road and the path to success would have been different - everyone was trying to give me opportunities - not the case for bottom or even middle of HYP class. Oh and, yes, I also was top 10% of large public HS and national merit finalist. My parents actually made fun of my ambition and drive, very working class mentality. They stopped laughing many years ago.

It really depends on the person. I find many teens are very influenced by their peers, so if they get into a high achieving peer group they will achieve even more than they would have otherwise. That was my experience. You are likely the exception to the typical rule.

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BS: how many people do you know their salaries, benefits, plans, savings, etc.? Stop guessing and presenting it at fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The most successful young adults who are now 27 or 28 years old were the top students in their high school class, no matter where they went to undergrad. From Ivies to tiny liberal arts college to fairly regional public universities, they all zoomed through undergrad, sometimes in three years, many went to grad or professional school, and they all have great careers. It seems all of them are married.

The handful of middle of the pack students and student-athletes who surprised everyone when they got into elite T20s regressed to their mean and have totally normal careers, at best.

It seems smart ambitious highly-motivated teens become smart ambitious highly-motivated adults. And if your teen is not those things, Tiger Mom'ing them into an elite college probably isn't going to change anything about their life and professional trajectory.

All of them are married at 27? Do you live in the deep south or Pakistan?

lol
So true. The OP is a backwards provincial mom stuck on this board with grown and flown children….
Hmmm. What does that tell you.

The upper classes all over the US actually do marry in their mid to late 20s, statistically. It the middle and UMC that marry in their early to mid 30s. The LC marry young and multiple times.

Asian?
South Asian?

White UC American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BS: how many people do you know their salaries, benefits, plans, savings, etc.? Stop guessing and presenting it at fact.

Go to the tops of mid-sized public companies and check out where those folks went to school. Law amd accounting firms probably stuff in all the ivys but there are SO MANY mid sized companies that dont.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you imagine being so pathetic, with no life, to the degree that you write a “tracking” post about your adult children and their peers?

DP

No, but I can imagine some folks like you getting all upset that someone else did something fairly meaningless.

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At age 27 or 28, what is the difference between a "great" and "normal" career?