DC council makes day care more expensive

[Anonymous]

What DC, and soon Maryland want to do is eliminate private day cares and in-home day cares. They want to move all children into pre-K.

What will happen is that daycares will only be allowed to watch infants. However, because you can only watch so many infants. This means daycares will shut down and there will be less availability. You can’t make a living off watching two or three infants.

You don’t need a degree or even an associates degree to watch children. You need training, but you do not need a degree. A degree reduces the workforce or will increase unlicensed daycares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What DC, and soon Maryland want to do is eliminate private day cares and in-home day cares. They want to move all children into pre-K.

What will happen is that daycares will only be allowed to watch infants. However, because you can only watch so many infants. This means daycares will shut down and there will be less availability. You can’t make a living off watching two or three infants.

You don’t need a degree or even an associates degree to watch children. You need training, but you do not need a degree. A degree reduces the workforce or will increase unlicensed daycares.

Not really, DC is already chopping the daycare/childcare salary stipend program they voted to implement a few years ago. They decided they don't want to foot the bill in the latest budget, pending final DC Council vote - so DC is making steps to move away from public financing of daycare salaries.

But they did make it harder for childcare workers by implementing the educational requirement, while simultaneously pulling the salary rug out from under the workers' feet.

Great work, DC Council!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all do know about the Early Childhood Pay Equity Fund, right? Teachers who earn an associates get paid at a much higher rate, and a with bachelor's earn as much as a DCPS teacher (actually a little more to make up for working year-round). The pay is subsidized by the city. PLUS any child care worker who cares to do so can get that degree absoultely FREE, plus receive a stipend, through programs like DC LEAD. And medical coverage is free as well via Health Care for Child Care.
I'm a center director and am thrilled about both the new requirements and new pay. I've seen first-hand the positive impact higher education has on the quality of care a child receives from infancy through preschool.

Who is going to compensate daycare workers for the salaries they forgo while in school?

They will probably have one lead teacher with a college education and then assistants. The others will be assistants. This happens in some day cares already.

[Anonymous]

Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

And you you don’t care about the minimum wage caretakers while you make many times what they make.

DP. I would love to hear how you think someone making minimum wage is going to afford to get a college education. And why you think that a college education automatically means someone makes more than minimum wage. Dcum tends to be pretty out of touch, but this take is extra special.

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Daycare costs 2500-3k in DC. I paid less than that.

Tell me how the single parent working as a nurses aide is affording that per month.

They are getting day care subsidies.

Tell me you don’t know shit without telling me that you don’t know shit. Pray tell, where is this subsidy coming from? Very few employers subsidize childcare and the government does not subsidize it except via tax credit that doesn’t even cover 2 months of care.

Clearly you don't know given your post. Are you that clueless? Yes, most local governments have child care subsidies.

Here you go: https://osse.dc.gov/subsidy

In fact, there is a Federal Child Care Subsidy program (created in 1990), which provides funds to states. And states and localities also dedicate funds to child care subsidies. https://www.ffyf.org/resources/2023/05/how-ccdbg-benefits-families-in-your-state/
Here is info on DC's subsidy program: https://www.ffyf.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/2023_CCDBG-Fact-Sheet_DC.pdf The funds are not enough to help lots of families, but a small % of families get subsidies each year.

Perhaps the PP will read these and then will "know sh*t".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

Nice strawman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

Nice strawman.

NP and I think PP’s scenario is totally plausible. No 60 year old is going to get an AA degree for this bill. Frankly no 45 year old will do it either. They will go work in a different county or start nannying. Most of the childcare providers my children had were on the younger side but had children of their own. They didn’t have the time to go back to school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

Nice strawman.

NP and I think PP’s scenario is totally plausible. No 60 year old is going to get an AA degree for this bill. Frankly no 45 year old will do it either. They will go work in a different county or start nannying. Most of the childcare providers my children had were on the younger side but had children of their own. They didn’t have the time to go back to school.

Where and how is this is real scenario?

[Anonymous]

How about in exchange for requiring college degrees for being a daycare worker, you need to be married with a HS degree to be allowed to procreate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

Nice strawman.

Why? No one is going back to school for this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

Nice strawman.

NP and I think PP’s scenario is totally plausible. No 60 year old is going to get an AA degree for this bill. Frankly no 45 year old will do it either. They will go work in a different county or start nannying. Most of the childcare providers my children had were on the younger side but had children of their own. They didn’t have the time to go back to school.

Where and how is this is real scenario?

What do you mean? My children attended three different daycares in Ward 4. These scenarios were true in all of them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What DC, and soon Maryland want to do is eliminate private day cares and in-home day cares. They want to move all children into pre-K.

What will happen is that daycares will only be allowed to watch infants. However, because you can only watch so many infants. This means daycares will shut down and there will be less availability. You can’t make a living off watching two or three infants.

You don’t need a degree or even an associates degree to watch children. You need training, but you do not need a degree. A degree reduces the workforce or will increase unlicensed daycares.

Not really, DC is already chopping the daycare/childcare salary stipend program they voted to implement a few years ago. They decided they don't want to foot the bill in the latest budget, pending final DC Council vote - so DC is making steps to move away from public financing of daycare salaries.

But they did make it harder for childcare workers by implementing the educational requirement, while simultaneously pulling the salary rug out from under the workers' feet.

Great work, DC Council!

I just called Mendelsohn’s office to tell them to fully fund the Early Childhood Educator Pay Equity Fund and HealthCare4ChildCare programs. The woman on the phone had to put me on hold for almost 5 minutes because as she told me they were getting “a lot calls”. Please take 5 minutes today to call and ask the same. 202-724-8032.

And if your council member opposes funding call or email their office as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which would you rather have take care of your baby:

A. A 60 year old woman who has taken care of literally thousands of babies who didnt graduate from high school

B. A 25 year old woman with a college degree in child psychology (or whatever degree our government now believes people should be having) who isn't entirely comfortable holding a screaming infant.

(No parent is choosing option B.)

Nice strawman.

NP and I think PP’s scenario is totally plausible. No 60 year old is going to get an AA degree for this bill. Frankly no 45 year old will do it either. They will go work in a different county or start nannying. Most of the childcare providers my children had were on the younger side but had children of their own. They didn’t have the time to go back to school.

Where and how is this is real scenario?

What do you mean? My children attended three different daycares in Ward 4. These scenarios were true in all of them.

My child attended a Bright Horizon’s daycare downtown and this scenario was far from the truth. All of the workers were young women who could have used further education. My child would come home from daycare and pretend out random objects up to their face and babble because all they saw were these young women talking in their phones all day. There were a total of zero 60 year old grandmas who would have been out of work and a dozen young women who needed further education and training.