DC council makes day care more expensive

[Anonymous]

They are requiring staff to have college degrees, possibly two-year. Passed in 2015, it took effect last year.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

[Anonymous]

There is zero reason for caregivers of 4 and under kids to have college degrees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Oh great let's make daycare even more rare and expensive in our city. Just take an existing crisis and throw gasoline on it. Forget getting on the wait-list while your pregnant, just sign up 3 years before you even start trying. It's already a 2nd mortgage payment to afford daycare in our city, let's make it even more expensive for the single parent trying to get by!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

And you you don’t care about the minimum wage caretakers while you make many times what they make.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Oh great let's make daycare even more rare and expensive in our city. Just take an existing crisis and throw gasoline on it. Forget getting on the wait-list while your pregnant, just sign up 3 years before you even start trying. It's already a 2nd mortgage payment to afford daycare in our city, let's make it even more expensive for the single parent trying to get by!

Then you make different life choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

And you you don’t care about the minimum wage caretakers while you make many times what they make.

DP. I would love to hear how you think someone making minimum wage is going to afford to get a college education. And why you think that a college education automatically means someone makes more than minimum wage. Dcum tends to be pretty out of touch, but this take is extra special.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

And you you don’t care about the minimum wage caretakers while you make many times what they make.

No actually I was raised by a single parent and also have a sister in law who provided in home daycare to earn a living. Requiring college education would have meant they found a different job, not that they went out and got a degree.

And I also lived in DC and put two kids through daycare. The cost of daycare is already astronomical. Barely afforded it as two college educated parents but I also work with a lot of non college educated colleagues for whom it's an even more difficult struggle.

So no, not out of touch. Just realistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

And you you don’t care about the minimum wage caretakers while you make many times what they make.

DP. I would love to hear how you think someone making minimum wage is going to afford to get a college education. And why you think that a college education automatically means someone makes more than minimum wage. Dcum tends to be pretty out of touch, but this take is extra special.

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Daycare costs 2500-3k in DC. I paid less than that.

Tell me how the single parent working as a nurses aide is affording that per month.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like DC is putting small businesses out of business and increasing unemployment for mostly non white women. That is just an absurd requirement and monetarily infeasible.

Why so negative? This also encourages these women to pursue further education that will increase their income earning potential in the future.

It doesn't make sense. It really doesn't. It's just not needed. It also significantly increases the cost of child care. Plus, you want someone to get a college degree to make minimum wage. Who would go into childcare?

It increases the cost because providers can command higher salaries. I’m okay with that and would prefer providers to have education and training.

Because you are an out of touch rich person who can afford it and don't seem to give a crap about the average working parent who already barely affords daycare in DC or the average working person who makes a living off of providing daycare services. This the requirement makes it worse for blue collar workers.

And you you don’t care about the minimum wage caretakers while you make many times what they make.

Please share how you think a minimum wage daycare worker is going to get a college degree?

I think there are legitimate arguments about how to increase the wages of lower salary childcare workers (e.g. federal childcare subsidies, affordable group health insurance offerings, paid sick leave, etc.) but telling them they have to go get a 4 year degree to do the job they are currently doing is frankly cruel and does not come from any place of caring about these workers.

My God, this site is eye opening to how delusional and out of touch some people are.

[Anonymous]

I hate this for a host of reasons, not limited to:

- Totally devaluing the caregiving experience many (almost entirely women) bring to the childcare profession earned in their own families and communities. Like that knowledge and experience doesn't matter if you don't have at least an associates degree. Essentially eliminates a possible line of work for women who spend their younger years caregiving unless they have the money to get a degree.

- Particularly harmful for immigrant women, for whom this is a common line of employment and one where they are often valued for skills that will not be represented in that degree requirement, like being bilingual.

- People claim it will lead to higher salaries in the profession but it will also lead to fewer jobs, as many daycares are already paying astronomical rents and cannot afford to also pay higher salaries. So realistically it will mostly benefit the workers who already get higher salaries (because they already have these credentials -- a daycare worker with a degree in early childhood has ALWAYS made more money, this is not new) while eliminating jobs, *and childcare spots*, for everyone else. Instead of win-win-win, it's same-lose-lose. Net negative.