How do you all get enough fiber?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.
Anonymous
I eat focused on micronutrients and fiber, and design my menu and recipes around those priorities.

Every day I eat a cup or more of beans, usually black but sometimes chickpeas. Also a 1/2 cup of nuts, 1/4 walnuts and 1/4 peanuts or pistachios. A cup of berries usually black sometimes blue occasionally strawberries. A cup of dark leafy greens and a cup of cruciferous veggies. Some baby carrots every day and yes, an apple a day. Sometimes seeded whole wheat bread, sometimes whole wheat pasta, sometimes brown rice. Garlic every day, onions and peppers most days. Capsaicin most days, also cinnamon daily.

Getting the RDA+ of fiber daily is a massive game changer in terms of feeling good, feeling satiated, losing weight and inches. Fiber is the single most important thing for building a healthy gut biome.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Most Americans eat FAR more protein than they need, we are protein obsessed. You can get all you need from a plant based diet if you choose the right foods. Getting tons of protein from animal products drives weight gain - protein intake more than necessary is stored as fat - and strains the kidneys to boot.

Beans are a terrific source of protein, the primary source for most of the human population. Try eating a cup or more of beans every day for a month and see how it changes the game for your gut and overall health. Take some meat out of your diet to make room for the fiber optimal health requires.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Most Americans eat FAR more protein than they need, we are protein obsessed. You can get all you need from a plant based diet if you choose the right foods. Getting tons of protein from animal products drives weight gain - protein intake more than necessary is stored as fat - and strains the kidneys to boot.

Beans are a terrific source of protein, the primary source for most of the human population. Try eating a cup or more of beans every day for a month and see how it changes the game for your gut and overall health. Take some meat out of your diet to make room for the fiber optimal health requires.



I’m not a huge oats fan except in granola, but beans are delicious and the furthest thing from bland unless you don’t know how to use spices. You should fix that because tons of spices are very healthful, they are also plants and they feed a healthy gut biome in addition to making plants very tasty.

But I’ll be honest, if you eat a typical saturated fat/animal product heavy American diet, you’ll need some palate resetting before you start to crave produce the way I do now. But it’s worth the effort to change how you eat, the results are not just terrific healthy bowel function but all the myriad improvements to health that fiber consumption brings.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Most Americans eat FAR more protein than they need, we are protein obsessed. You can get all you need from a plant based diet if you choose the right foods. Getting tons of protein from animal products drives weight gain - protein intake more than necessary is stored as fat - and strains the kidneys to boot.

Beans are a terrific source of protein, the primary source for most of the human population. Try eating a cup or more of beans every day for a month and see how it changes the game for your gut and overall health. Take some meat out of your diet to make room for the fiber optimal health requires.



I have been eating lots beans lately - but i have a question.

Are canned beans ok?

Canned black beans, chickpeas etc
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


I think you’re the one missing the point - high fiber foods are good for you.

It’s totally possible to get enough protein and fiber - your attitude is just crappy
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Most Americans eat FAR more protein than they need, we are protein obsessed. You can get all you need from a plant based diet if you choose the right foods. Getting tons of protein from animal products drives weight gain - protein intake more than necessary is stored as fat - and strains the kidneys to boot.

Beans are a terrific source of protein, the primary source for most of the human population. Try eating a cup or more of beans every day for a month and see how it changes the game for your gut and overall health. Take some meat out of your diet to make room for the fiber optimal health requires.



I have been eating lots beans lately - but i have a question.

Are canned beans ok?

Canned black beans, chickpeas etc


OP here. I believe the only really difference in nutrition is that canned beans can be ridiculously high in sodium. This can be partially addressed by rinsing them really well, but they'll still be higher in sodium than dried beans cooked at home. I don't think there's any measurable difference in fiber, protein, vitamins, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Most Americans eat FAR more protein than they need, we are protein obsessed. You can get all you need from a plant based diet if you choose the right foods. Getting tons of protein from animal products drives weight gain - protein intake more than necessary is stored as fat - and strains the kidneys to boot.

Beans are a terrific source of protein, the primary source for most of the human population. Try eating a cup or more of beans every day for a month and see how it changes the game for your gut and overall health. Take some meat out of your diet to make room for the fiber optimal health requires.



I have been eating lots beans lately - but i have a question.

Are canned beans ok?

Canned black beans, chickpeas etc


Eh, I'd limit canned stuff. They're lined with plastic coatings, which can leach into food stuffs. I try to eat stuff only in glass containers or cooked in metal or ceramics not lined with nonstick coatings.
Anonymous
My go to is Kellogg's All-Bran Buds (17g of fiber / 120 calories ). You can sprinkle it on yogurt and also use it in baking recipes to add extra fiber.

Potatoes, pears, pumpkin are also high in fiber. I also eat a lot of lentils (Indian or Ethiopian recipes).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Nobody eats bland oats. Most normal people eat a bowl of oatmeal with fruit, nuts, seeds, etc., mixed in, along with spices, etc. So the fiber is increasing with each thing being added on. Same with beans. People eat the beans with whole grains, vegetables, and some dairy.

You're right that it is all filling. If you're doing it right, there's very little room for candy, donuts, Starbucks drinks, etc. That's the benefit.
Anonymous
Why all the whining about bland? Chicken is bland if you don’t season it. So are eggs. Add flavors to your oats and your beans and they won’t be bland! Oats: go ahead and some sugar, but you could also use Molasses which is a high iron sweetener, you could also blend dates or mash a banana right into the oats. Cinnamon, vanilla extract, pumpkin pie spice…all delicious ways to make oats more interesting. As for beans—I love salsa and I mix it with plain Greek yogurt and it’s a great way to make beans tasty and healthy.

Learn how to use fresh herbs! Hit a store like Penzey’s for more ways to season your food.
Anonymous
I just started eating chickpea pasta instead of regular pasta and really like it! It fills me up way more with way less.

Also, I love plain oats (I do add salt and sometimes ground flax but not always) and could eat them all day but I guess that’s just me.
Anonymous
Throw cold steamed broccoli on your salad
Anonymous
benefiber capsules or psyllium husk capsules (equate via walmart)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yes but men get more calories to work with than women.



Big deal, that just means it is much more expensive to meet dietary guidelines for fiber as a man. For women they recommend 25 grams. For men they recommend a whopping 38 grams. You need 50% more fiber per day as man than a woman.

Look at all of the fiber numbers quoted in foods. They say raspberries are high in fiber, but have you looked at the serving size required to obtain those numbers? They often are quoted in PER CUP of raspberries. Yeah, how much of the population can afford to eat a cup of raspberries everyday when that's like the entire package of the damn container that's running $4.99 every time?

It is way harder in terms of food consumption and cost to get up to 38 grams per day as a man. Fiber supplements it is.


I agree that raspberries are prohibitively expensive. But dried beans and oats are ridiculously cheap and both great sources of fiber.


Yes, but you're missing the point. To get just 8 grams of fiber from moats, you need to eat an entire cup of dried oats. Have you ever eaten that much oats after they're cooked? It is a gargantuan amount of tasteless, bland oats. Then you'd have to add and entire apple and two table spoons of chia seeds just to get to about 15-18 g of fiber.

And that's just breakfast. For lunch you'd have to eat half a cup of black beans, some fruit, and then a salad just to get to about 25-28 g of fiber. Now for dinner you need even more beans and lentils, veggies, and perhaps even more fruit to make it to 35 grams of fiber.

So when are you supposed to eat actual protein and have room for it that isn't coming from lentils or beans? All of the above stuff is massively filling. It's just not sustainable to eat such horribly bland food allllll the time day and day out just to meet the minimum 35 grams of fiber recommended per day. There is a limit to how much flavorless oats cooked in water that I can take for days in a row. I think I'd rather die of a heart attack at 68 than eat a full cup of dry oats and beans every single day of my existence but so I can meet the minimum recommended for fiber.

Give me the damn supplement. I might as well eat wood like a termite, because that seems more efficient than eating all do the other bland foods.


Most Americans eat FAR more protein than they need, we are protein obsessed. You can get all you need from a plant based diet if you choose the right foods. Getting tons of protein from animal products drives weight gain - protein intake more than necessary is stored as fat - and strains the kidneys to boot.

Beans are a terrific source of protein, the primary source for most of the human population. Try eating a cup or more of beans every day for a month and see how it changes the game for your gut and overall health. Take some meat out of your diet to make room for the fiber optimal health requires.



I have been eating lots beans lately - but i have a question.

Are canned beans ok?

Canned black beans, chickpeas etc


Eh, I'd limit canned stuff. They're lined with plastic coatings, which can leach into food stuffs. I try to eat stuff only in glass containers or cooked in metal or ceramics not lined with nonstick coatings.


Just rinse the beans
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