what colleges are getting a lot harder to get into (and will continue to get harder)

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Anonymous wrote:USC may be harder for OOS, but it’s not quite as hard for those in-state, despite being private.

Agree with others.

All of my Cali friends say the opposite!

Then they would be wrong, USC takes a huge portion of the class from instate

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Anonymous wrote:What is everyone basing this on? Actual statistics or just the fact that your kid didn’t get in and thought they would? I imagine if you asked this question every year, a lot of the same schools would come up in the replies. Everyone whose kids are applying for the first time thinks it’s harder for their kids than it was in years past. Maybe they’re right in some cases but it seems like a biased approach.

Both, in many cases. Auburn’s acceptance rate has dropped from the 80’s to the 40’s over the past few years (less from OOS) and the surprise at the anecdotal results here bears that out. Also, e.g., looks like Michigan definitely got more apps this year (I guess that’s what a National Championship will do for you).

Some, like UT Austin, have been virtually impossible from OOS for some time, but it’s just that people who are going through the process for the first time in a while are surprised.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan got 105K apps this year-all time record. Crazy hard admit!

They have approximately 32,000 undergraduates.

UVA has approximately 16,000 undergraduates and received about 57,000 applications.

So proportionally the same kind of crazy, hard admit.

Yeah. That Michigan booster has a problem with math/statistics.

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This is a bit of a silly thread. Nearly every college in the T75 or so has seen apps increase exponentially for the last three years.

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Anonymous wrote:Outside of the top 25-30 which have always been tough, all the OOS publics, especially in the south, have gotten tougher.

Clemson, Auburn, Bama, tennessee, South Carolina, Indiana , Pitt.

Also you may get in but you may not get as much merit as you did even 2-3 years ago.

VT and Jmu too.

Some of these have gotten a little harder but most are still easy to get into (South Carolina, Indiana, Bama are all easy).

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Anonymous wrote:UMiami

The people we know going there are not at all top of their class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:USC may be harder for OOS, but it’s not quite as hard for those in-state, despite being private.

Agree with others.

All of my Cali friends say the opposite!

Then they would be wrong, USC takes a huge portion of the class from instate

Stanford also takes a large portion from instate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:USC may be harder for OOS, but it’s not quite as hard for those in-state, despite being private.

Agree with others.

All of my Cali friends say the opposite!

Then they would be wrong, USC takes a huge portion of the class from instate

Californians tend to apply closer to home and at least lately have really shifted to computer science , mechanical engineering , or neuroscience as preferred majors. While USC and the UC schools may enroll far more instate, the number and caliber of instate applicants is really high.

Flip side is that many of the east coast SLACs are slightly easier for Californians to get into as less are applying there.

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Case Western Reserve University. Supposedly my kid’s safety but she was deferred and now waitlisted with 4.3/1550.

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Anonymous wrote:Case Western Reserve University. Supposedly my kid’s safety but she was deferred and now waitlisted with 4.3/1550.

Did she show interest? They are big on demonstrated interest and don’t want to be your kid’s safety…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan got 105K apps this year-all time record. Crazy hard admit!

They have approximately 32,000 undergraduates.

UVA has approximately 16,000 undergraduates and received about 57,000 applications.

So proportionally the same kind of crazy, hard admit.

Yeah. That Michigan booster has a problem with math/statistics.

And they keep posting over and over again…as bad as the GDS poster!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Case Western Reserve University. Supposedly my kid’s safety but she was deferred and now waitlisted with 4.3/1550.

CW is known for this. Not new

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:USC may be harder for OOS, but it’s not quite as hard for those in-state, despite being private.

Agree with others.

All of my Cali friends say the opposite!

Then they would be wrong, USC takes a huge portion of the class from instate

Californians tend to apply closer to home and at least lately have really shifted to computer science , mechanical engineering , or neuroscience as preferred majors. While USC and the UC schools may enroll far more instate, the number and caliber of instate applicants is really high.

Flip side is that many of the east coast SLACs are slightly easier for Californians to get into as less are applying there.

Big difference between USC and the UC’s though is USC makes sure to stay below half from California.

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Six from our NJ private going to Duke

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Anonymous wrote:I expect that schools that remain TO will see increasing application numbers, particularly those that are already perceived as being exclusive.

This will be interesting. The T10s that reinstated tests will have application numbers go down because the dummies will no longer apply to them and the TOS will get even more applicants. I’m guessing USNWR will change rankings because no way the Ivies ate going to tolerate TOs falsely moving up in this numbers game.

And your post, with the stupid gaming of the rankings and colleges' influence, is why this entire thing is such a sham.

+1000
Do wish the apps could add a few Qs:

1) How much did you pay for college consulting and test prep?
2) How much did you pay for club/travel sports?
3) Describe any ways that you compromised your integrity to get your GPA? (I have so much to say about this….but not the right thread)
4) Did your parents force you to stay in an activity, sport, or club (or develop your own nonprofit/club/fill-in-the-blank) even though you derived no joy or sense of your own agency in said endeavor?

Major problems, DCUM. TBH I’m not sure I want my kid competing for a “top” spot. I am concerned about the peer group. 😳

We are at a T20 (really) and these are perfectly valid points.