what colleges are getting a lot harder to get into (and will continue to get harder)

[Anonymous]

What is everyone basing this on? Actual statistics or just the fact that your kid didn’t get in and thought they would? I imagine if you asked this question every year, a lot of the same schools would come up in the replies. Everyone whose kids are applying for the first time thinks it’s harder for their kids than it was in years past. Maybe they’re right in some cases but it seems like a biased approach.

[Anonymous]

A NYer here. SUNY Binghamton.

[Anonymous]

Villanova. I think basically any school that has adopted ED 1 and ED2 over the past ten years has gotten a lot harder to get into at EA and RD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Villanova. I think basically any school that has adopted ED 1 and ED2 over the past ten years has gotten a lot harder to get into at EA and RD.

Indeed. We know of some incredible kids who were rejected there ED1 and ED2.

Lehigh also surprised me by who they denied this year, at least on a GPA/test score basis.

[Anonymous]

Colleges are reporting record number of apps everywhere (Google the particular college you’d like to see) and many many kids at our “elite” DMV private did 18-20 apps this year with the uncertainty. The numbers are real. We are now starting to see the effect of deferrals and RD decisions on the middle/lower 1/2 of the class who are doing fine but not stellar.

[Anonymous]

It will be interesting to see the yield rate trends, given the increase in applications per student.

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Anonymous wrote:UF, Clemson, TN - in fact, I believe all the SEC (plus Florida State) schools saw massive application increases. All Ivies got harder other than Harvard.

Brown also saw a decline. Not exactly sure why Harvard and Brown are the only two schools in the top 30 or so that saw a decline in applications. Definitely against the trend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Michigan got 105K apps this year-all time record. Crazy hard admit!

They have approximately 32,000 undergraduates.

UVA has approximately 16,000 undergraduates and received about 57,000 applications.

So proportionally the same kind of crazy, hard admit.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan got 105K apps this year-all time record. Crazy hard admit!

They have approximately 32,000 undergraduates.

UVA has approximately 16,000 undergraduates and received about 57,000 applications.

So proportionally the same kind of crazy, hard admit.

Unless they have the same yield rate, it's hard to know....one school might have a lower yield and therefore need to admit more students per slot than the other....but, yes, both are hard to get into.

[Anonymous]

Any Ivy, Duke, top State schools e.g. UCLA, Berkley, UVA, Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe not too relevant on this board but Rutgers was way harder this year since it joined the common app. Lots more applications and in state kids who expected to get in and genuinely wanted to go (and financially were counting on it) were rejected or waitlisted.

This plus Rutgers’ 40 rating in USNWR (same rating as Tufts). Apps were up 66%. Yield will likely be lower but I’m not sure Rutgers was prepared for this.

I think the improvement in rank of many state universities in USNWR pushed up apps this year but not sure it will continue—esp if score reporting becomes mandatory.

[Anonymous]

Definitely UF. My nephew with a 1540 and 4.4 got rejected. We were shocked (still remember the 90s when it had a 60% acceptance rate). As it turns out, this year UF had an in-state acceptance rate of 20% this year and OOS was substantially less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Definitely UF. My nephew with a 1540 and 4.4 got rejected. We were shocked (still remember the 90s when it had a 60% acceptance rate). As it turns out, this year UF had an in-state acceptance rate of 20% this year and OOS was substantially less.

Also, as more people keep moving to Florida, UF (and the other publics) will get even harder to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I expect that schools that remain TO will see increasing application numbers, particularly those that are already perceived as being exclusive.

This will be interesting. The T10s that reinstated tests will have application numbers go down because the dummies will no longer apply to them and the TOS will get even more applicants. I’m guessing USNWR will change rankings because no way the Ivies ate going to tolerate TOs falsely moving up in this numbers game.

And your post, with the stupid gaming of the rankings and colleges' influence, is why this entire thing is such a sham.

+1000
Do wish the apps could add a few Qs:

1) How much did you pay for college consulting and test prep?
2) How much did you pay for club/travel sports?
3) Describe any ways that you compromised your integrity to get your GPA? (I have so much to say about this….but not the right thread)
4) Did your parents force you to stay in an activity, sport, or club (or develop your own nonprofit/club/fill-in-the-blank) even though you derived no joy or sense of your own agency in said endeavor?

Major problems, DCUM. TBH I’m not sure I want my kid competing for a “top” spot. I am concerned about the peer group. 😳

[Anonymous]

UVA!

I know 2 who got into Duke and only 1 who got into UVA. Tons of deserving kids waitlisted at UVA this year.