Violent crime @ UChicago

[Anonymous]

We all know that fighting back against someone with a gun who is just demanding a phone is the wrong move and can get you killed. In the moment we all do different things. It worked out for her, but easily might not have.

As a bystander, is it smart to confront someone with a gun because someone else decided to fight instead of tossing them her phone?

Things happen fast. We don't know what the bystander saw or knew. Is he a coward, oblivious, doesn't want to die for someone else's phone? I don't know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The broad daylight part is what really troubles me. Plus the getaway cars. If people are trawling the neighborhood looking for easy marks then maybe the campus police can lay out some traffic control speed bumps? I saw that in Mexico once. Nobody could go faster than 10mph without ripping the wheels off of the car. That most most most peaceful street in town.

Just a thought

Same. The looking and trawling for blonde white female students bothers me. This could have been my daughters good friend. You can say cry me a river, but that is exactly what is happening here. Why is that okay? Why is that acceptable as some sort of societal payback (not unlike the OJ case)? Y'all are truly sick in the head.

The trawling "yeah, get THAT one" is sick, sick, sick. Good for her for kicking the perp's arse. All parents need to emphasize self defense. Perps do this, because they know they can get away with it. If they get caught, it is nothing to them, maybe a badge of honor. A slap on the hand, and released to keep doing the same thing over and over again, maybe jail - which is three squares and a bed, probably more than they have at home. How much is enough? Because they hate the "rich" students? GMAFB.

Um.... you really don't have any experience with this do you? They rob people all over the city. Anybody with something in their hands (a purse, a box from their shopping, a laptop) looks like an easy snatch and run. If you care look at crime reports from the whole town. Criminals target people they think won't fight back. They were wrong about this girl. But please understand that the next time that kid tries to rob somebody they will be even more violent. Real talk from somebody not trying to sell you a mail order pillow.

Also, "three squares and a bed" sounds like something you learned from a 1950s crime drama. Do you actually think they are doing this because they are hungry? Use some common sense. A hungry man with a gun is going to rob a restaurant and eat that moment, not snatch a purse.

A hungry man with a gun? Are you for real? They have a getaway car in the frame. Watch the video. When I was homeless, I certainly could not afford a car. I didn't go around holding people up. What's your GD excuse, you know so much? What else should we be handing criminals? Our phones? What else? What is next? Are you for real?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The broad daylight part is what really troubles me. Plus the getaway cars. If people are trawling the neighborhood looking for easy marks then maybe the campus police can lay out some traffic control speed bumps? I saw that in Mexico once. Nobody could go faster than 10mph without ripping the wheels off of the car. That most most most peaceful street in town.

Just a thought

Same. The looking and trawling for blonde white female students bothers me. This could have been my daughters good friend. You can say cry me a river, but that is exactly what is happening here. Why is that okay? Why is that acceptable as some sort of societal payback (not unlike the OJ case)? Y'all are truly sick in the head.

The trawling "yeah, get THAT one" is sick, sick, sick. Good for her for kicking the perp's arse. All parents need to emphasize self defense. Perps do this, because they know they can get away with it. If they get caught, it is nothing to them, maybe a badge of honor. A slap on the hand, and released to keep doing the same thing over and over again, maybe jail - which is three squares and a bed, probably more than they have at home. How much is enough? Because they hate the "rich" students? GMAFB.

Um.... you really don't have any experience with this do you? They rob people all over the city. Anybody with something in their hands (a purse, a box from their shopping, a laptop) looks like an easy snatch and run. If you care look at crime reports from the whole town. Criminals target people they think won't fight back. They were wrong about this girl. But please understand that the next time that kid tries to rob somebody they will be even more violent. Real talk from somebody not trying to sell you a mail order pillow.

Also, "three squares and a bed" sounds like something you learned from a 1950s crime drama. Do you actually think they are doing this because they are hungry? Use some common sense. A hungry man with a gun is going to rob a restaurant and eat that moment, not snatch a purse.

A hungry man with a gun? Are you for real? They have a getaway car in the frame. Watch the video. When I was homeless, I certainly could not afford a car. I didn't go around holding people up. What's your GD excuse, you know so much? What else should we be handing criminals? Our phones? What else? What is next? Are you for real?

Also, only people who meet your specifications are "hungry" or homeless? Or deserve sympathy? Or hardworking people's phones? Now people deserve to be punished/robbed for having a job and paying for their phone and taking out loans (or not) and paying their own way through college? What else?? You think she is on the white blonde scholarship? Please, enlighten me what people should and should not be punished for in society, because apparently robbing innocent people point blank in broad daylight, while your buddy drives the getaway car next to you, in the video frame, is perfectly okay with you. And don't pretend to know me or what I have been through. Because eff you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

Temple, also.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

I live in Chicago. There are not enough security guards - and most are not armed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

Have I been where? to Penn or UChicago? I have been to both. Penn security is top notch, Temple also has security but area still way too dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

Im confused-you don;t want your kids going to a place that has security guards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all know that fighting back against someone with a gun who is just demanding a phone is the wrong move and can get you killed. In the moment we all do different things. It worked out for her, but easily might not have.

As a bystander, is it smart to confront someone with a gun because someone else decided to fight instead of tossing them her phone?

Things happen fast. We don't know what the bystander saw or knew. Is he a coward, oblivious, doesn't want to die for someone else's phone? I don't know.

I feel bad for him-he is probably just know dealing with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

I live in Chicago. There are not enough security guards - and most are not armed.

Same with Temple (as an example) which has unarmed security guards on bikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reality Check:

The female victim was wrong because she fought back. Could have been killed. She should have just given up her cell phone.

True

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

Im confused-you don;t want your kids going to a place that has security guards?

Correct. I don’t want my kids going somewhere that needs that level of a security presence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with that guy just sitting there??

Chicago DAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The broad daylight part is what really troubles me. Plus the getaway cars. If people are trawling the neighborhood looking for easy marks then maybe the campus police can lay out some traffic control speed bumps? I saw that in Mexico once. Nobody could go faster than 10mph without ripping the wheels off of the car. That most most most peaceful street in town.

Just a thought

Same. The looking and trawling for blonde white female students bothers me. This could have been my daughters good friend. You can say cry me a river, but that is exactly what is happening here. Why is that okay? Why is that acceptable as some sort of societal payback (not unlike the OJ case)? Y'all are truly sick in the head.

The trawling "yeah, get THAT one" is sick, sick, sick. Good for her for kicking the perp's arse. All parents need to emphasize self defense. Perps do this, because they know they can get away with it. If they get caught, it is nothing to them, maybe a badge of honor. A slap on the hand, and released to keep doing the same thing over and over again, maybe jail - which is three squares and a bed, probably more than they have at home. How much is enough? Because they hate the "rich" students? GMAFB.

Um.... you really don't have any experience with this do you? They rob people all over the city. Anybody with something in their hands (a purse, a box from their shopping, a laptop) looks like an easy snatch and run. If you care look at crime reports from the whole town. Criminals target people they think won't fight back. They were wrong about this girl. But please understand that the next time that kid tries to rob somebody they will be even more violent. Real talk from somebody not trying to sell you a mail order pillow.

Also, "three squares and a bed" sounds like something you learned from a 1950s crime drama. Do you actually think they are doing this because they are hungry? Use some common sense. A hungry man with a gun is going to rob a restaurant and eat that moment, not snatch a purse.

A hungry man with a gun? Are you for real? They have a getaway car in the frame. Watch the video. When I was homeless, I certainly could not afford a car. I didn't go around holding people up. What's your GD excuse, you know so much? What else should we be handing criminals? Our phones? What else? What is next? Are you for real?

You should re-read the comment... these guys were obviously not hungry. If they were they would have robbed a restaurant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Penn in Philly had these problems but thye put millions in campus safety-I don't see UChi doing this at all!

Have you ever been there? There are campus security guards all over the place! It was part of what made me hope my kids wouldn’t apply there.

Im confused-you don;t want your kids going to a place that has security guards?

Correct. I don’t want my kids going somewhere that needs that level of a security presence.

I think safety should be determined based on crime vs security-yes, most times they correlate but not always. i wouldnt send kid to Temple but would to Penn (though that is easier said than done LOL).