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Well, I've lost a job, had car repossessed, mortgage foreclosed, and in order to live, sold everything I possibly could, but Have never and would never think oif robbing a bank, stealing from store or individual, breaking into someone's home and stealing. Also, I don't plan to enter any other country illegaly "just ot feed my family," We found legal ways--it's humbling--once married to multi-milionaire and then had to go to food banks. We all lived through this and no one broke the law. Your argument is specious, at best. |
Hardly. I doubt he can even speak English. |
Entering a country illegally is not comparable to robbing a bank or breaking into someone's home and stealing. The basic needs for your family obviously (from your post) include a job, cars, owning a home, and "things" you can sell. Your level of "having nothing" is not even close to the things people in other countries go through. I'm talking about having one of your kids DIE of hunger because you cannot feed them ANYTHING, I'm talking living and sleeping on the streets in winter WITH your kids, because the are no shelters or social services available. If I were in that situation, you bet I would go somewhere else and make a better decent life for my kids, even at the risk of pissing off people like the OP. |
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I voiced my opinions on this board before about illegal immigration. I mainly oppose it and won't get into the reasons why now, but I have to say that when I heard about the tragic death of the nun and the critical injury of the two others followed by "the man who killed them was an illegal immigrant," I almost vomited. His immigration status has NOTHING to do with the fact that he was drinking and driving. Are you really trying to tell me we don't have plenty of drunks who were born here and have a perfectly legal status? Also, as much as I oppose illegal immigration, I really don't believe that the US economy is where it is BECAUSE of it. I think it's legal folks who don't know how to stop spending and overspending that got us where we are.
I am outraged by how the media took the spin on this story. It just shows me that there is no such thing as pure news any more. Everything is editorialized and politicized. |
Don't be ridiculous. If you had a choice whether to have your kids live hungry, uneducated, and playing in open sewers, or to grow up in a middle-class environment, and the only difference between the two would be to break the immigration laws of a foreign country, you wouldn't do it? You're either lying, or your an immoral monster. *Any* parent would do it. US immigration laws to a poor Latin American immigrant are meaningless--they have absolutely zero moral weight whatsoever. Heck, they have less moral weight than marijuana laws do to US citizens. Pfft! "Robbing a bank," indeed... |
You poor thing! To have so much, and then...not so much. I'm sure your lost your job to an illegal immigrant. They took our joooooooooooooooobs! |
I'm a liberal, but calling a poor person an immoral monster for not moving to the U.S., legally or illegally, is ridiculous. In your attempt to defend the poor, you are stripping them of dignity. There is more to life than to be rich or poor. A good liberal may be against poverty but should not lose sight of that fact. |
You may have misread, but I stand by my original point: if you were given an explicit choice between breaking an immigration law and sparing your kids a lifetime of poor health, ignorance, and early death then any human being would break the immigration law in a heartbeat. Many, in fact most pf the worlds poor (including Mexicans and Central Americans) are never given that choice. Immigration--either legal or illegal--is usually an arduous gamble. And frankly, liberal or no, it sounds as though you're not particularly familiar with actual third-world poverty (and I'm not talking about folks who have a modest apartment and don't go to restaurants, I'm talking about folks who don't have access to potable water). There's absolutely nothing dignified about it. The fact that it's both official Mexican *and* unofficial US policy to encourage illegal immigration makes it even more ridiculous to blame undocumented aliens who come to our country. |
| Why can't we all just save the outrage for drunk drivers, not only those that were drunk, driving and did not have legal status? |
| WOW!!! just illegal people kill????? Ignorant!!!! |
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"But there is a difference here... the immigrant, if indeed undocumented, and if convicted, should be deported. Why should his action have any bearing on the lives of hardworking honest people trying to provide for their families by contributing to our economy?"
BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!well said!! |
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"This story is certainly a tragedy and an example of how the system needs to be more efficient. But it's a scary world when intelligent people use that as an excuse to be hateful and discriminatory, and worse, to suggest policies that would undermine the very foundation of the U.S. justice system. I have to believe OP is a troll--nobody could be that ignorant."
[Report Post] THIS! |
No, I lost my job because my husband had a stroke and I stayed at home to care for him as long as I could and huge medical debts were incurred, which were paid and I did not declare bankruptcy. I'm not feeling sorry for myself and I'm not asking you, or anyone else, for sympathy or weeking and wailing for my misfortune; I'm grateful there was enough money for me to stay with him as long as I could. You should really try to be an bigger ass that you are, I can't imagine that you have reached your zenith. |
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A nun is dead because of a man. Should we lock up all men? A nun is dead because of someone who's 5'6" (let's say). Should we deport all 5'6" people? And so on.
Regardless of what you think of illegal immigration, the fact of his being an illegal immigrant doesn't allow us to draw (intelligent) conclusions about illegal immigrants. It *does* allow us to draw conclusions about drunks... |
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