Night curfew and other solutions

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FFS we had the curfew this summer and no one enforced it.

MPD seems pretty adamant to collect a paycheck, pad overtime, and do nothing.

[Anonymous]

The curfew has been on the books for years. There was a plan for targeted enforcement in certain areas this summer. Kids were picked up and released to parent or guardian immediately and they were offered "services."

A lot of crime occurs during hours the curfew is not in effect or is committed by those too old to be covered by the curfew.

[Anonymous]

Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FFS we had the curfew this summer and no one enforced it.

MPD seems pretty adamant to collect a paycheck, pad overtime, and do nothing.

They go to jail if they harass an armed criminal on ATV let alone a teenager. They’re not nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

[Anonymous]

Cracking down hard on school truancy would really help. These kids have parents who work multiple jobs or overnight shifts to afford the CoL in DC, which leaves them unsupervised in the mornings when they're supposed to be getting ready for school. The kids run around the neighborhood all day instead, where they come in contact with criminal adults that groom them into committing robberies on their behalf, since kids get lighter penalties. Notice how a lot of the carjacking stories happen during the daytime. If these kids were simply accounted and supervised by adults in a school building for the day, the crime rate would drop.

[Anonymous]

We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

Yep. And the father who might be totally MIA. Wouldn’t he love getting a charge for a kid he left high and dry 15 years earlier.

And policies can be written for parents w other children. They can be doing community service on days off, parenting classes, tons of work arounds.

You round up her kid and she’s supposed to not go to court dates or visit in jail- that takes time tooZ

[Anonymous]

What is the penalty or consequence for being out anyway? Arresting them? And then what? If we can’t give them proper consequences for literally robbing people at gunpoint, I doubt there are going to be consequences for being out after curfew.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

Locking up violent people sure seems to be saving lives in Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Round up delinquents, drop them off on and island, and let them play Battle Royale! They clearly don't want to live in a civilized community anyway.

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DC or the Feds could probably lease a bug infested remote island from some third world hellhole state looking for cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the penalty or consequence for being out anyway? Arresting them? And then what? If we can’t give them proper consequences for literally robbing people at gunpoint, I doubt there are going to be consequences for being out after curfew.

They are picked up then released to a parent or guardian the same day and offered services. The info is readily available. That is the consequence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

The deprivation of being raised without learning basic values.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

Both parents. Make it an annoying consequence they cannot avoid. You have children they are your responsibility. They need to be in school. And not all of these parents are working multiple jobs while their kids skip school. Lots of these parents just don’t care where there kids are or leave them home alone while they go out or do drugs or whatever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

Both parents. Make it an annoying consequence they cannot avoid. You have children they are your responsibility. They need to be in school. And not all of these parents are working multiple jobs while their kids skip school. Lots of these parents just don’t care where there kids are or leave them home alone while they go out or do drugs or whatever.

Some parents also believe their kids when they said they went to school. I don't get the alert my kid missed school until 7 pm (it's too late then if they are a truant).

I always knew my kid wasn't in school because they are young and home sick. But getting that phone call at 7 pm is BS.