Night curfew and other solutions

[Anonymous]

The curfews need to be enforced.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The curfews need to be enforced.

This. There’s no point of the curfews when people are still out at crazy hours

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

This is the answer

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

Both parents. Make it an annoying consequence they cannot avoid. You have children they are your responsibility. They need to be in school. And not all of these parents are working multiple jobs while their kids skip school. Lots of these parents just don’t care where there kids are or leave them home alone while they go out or do drugs or whatever.

Some parents also believe their kids when they said they went to school. I don't get the alert my kid missed school until 7 pm (it's too late then if they are a truant).

I always knew my kid wasn't in school because they are young and home sick. But getting that phone call at 7 pm is BS.

Can we raise your taxes? Changes to the school system is going to need money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

This is the answer

How many poor parents in DC work "a job"? I agree with providing daycare, benefits etc for working poor parents to help and incentivize them. I have seen firsthand that most poor Latino parents in the DMV work. Most poor parents of other races, IDK.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

Both parents. Make it an annoying consequence they cannot avoid. You have children they are your responsibility. They need to be in school. And not all of these parents are working multiple jobs while their kids skip school. Lots of these parents just don’t care where there kids are or leave them home alone while they go out or do drugs or whatever.

Some parents also believe their kids when they said they went to school. I don't get the alert my kid missed school until 7 pm (it's too late then if they are a truant).

I always knew my kid wasn't in school because they are young and home sick. But getting that phone call at 7 pm is BS.

Can we raise your taxes? Changes to the school system is going to need money.

Yes. If we get a safer city that doesn’t just drive all black boys into jail then yes.

And

[Anonymous]

I agree with the 25 and younger for night curfew, simply because you must now be 21 yrs or older to purchase nicotine. Exceptions to the 25 and younger curfew would be those in college or grad school working late night jobs and they should be required to have a pass.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

This is the answer

No, the answer is both. Law abiding citizens have more of a right to safety than violent criminals have a right to do whatever the heck they want. We need to take dangerous people away from society until they can peacefully exist in society. AND we need to help address the root of these problems with earlier interventions and support, parenting classes, food, special ed, etc.

It not either or.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Violent criminals need to be removed and isolated from society. Doesn’t matter whether they’re 12 years old or 65. They need to go.

Start a public awareness campaign. Put the word out everywhere. After “____” date, if you get caught committing a violent crime, you’re gone. And you’re not coming back, for years. Maybe decades”.


Sure it’s unconstitutional. Sure it’s cruel and unusual.

It’ll work.


Because after you’ve removed a few thousand people, everyone else will get the message. And between people who’ve already been removed, and those discouraged by the new penalties, crime WILL drop precipitously. Guaranteed.

+1 look at El Salvador. Highest murder rates, rampant gang violence. New president came in, heavily cracked down. Crime has gone wayyyyyyy down. Yes, people are complaining about it being unjust.. but it sure worked. And non-criminals are much better off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge the parents!

Just like w school shooters, indite the parents for child neglect and more penalties if during schools hours, after 9 pm, on the weekend (yeah like 2 hours where there would be a penalty but not as high) and watch kids being chained to a couch and/or parents legally abandoning their kids.

I don’t like this idea of rounding up kids. Because of guilt by association- my kid is black and now young and cute but one day depending on how’s he’s dressed he will be a young thug.

But when he’s older he won’t be allowed in a cvs unless w a parent. Will have restrictions on going out - ie he won’t be unless it’s to another’s house and a parent takes him to and from.

Which parent? A mother who’s the breadwinner? In a multiple sibling situation

Both parents. Make it an annoying consequence they cannot avoid. You have children they are your responsibility. They need to be in school. And not all of these parents are working multiple jobs while their kids skip school. Lots of these parents just don’t care where there kids are or leave them home alone while they go out or do drugs or whatever.

Some parents also believe their kids when they said they went to school. I don't get the alert my kid missed school until 7 pm (it's too late then if they are a truant).

I always knew my kid wasn't in school because they are young and home sick. But getting that phone call at 7 pm is BS.

Can we raise your taxes? Changes to the school system is going to need money.

This is utter BS. DC schools spend more per pupil than some of the richest districts in the nation. The problem isn't lack of funds, it's mismanagement of existing funds.

[Anonymous]

This problem got much much worse when we decided to excuse crime instead of punishing it. I agree that we need more mental health care etc, but in no way does that mean we should allow crime. Yall have lost your mind, and the city has gone to crap because of your idiotic ideas.

Don’t be patting yourself on the back for this stupidity. Those with means have or will leave. It is those who don’t who are getting screwed by these horribly shortsighted virtue signaling anarchistic ideas. Black Lives Matter, so stop killing people by allowing rampant crime to go uncountered. Honestly, anyone who has supported the current political framework has so much blood on their hands. Your stupid progressive ideas are killing people!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

Part of the problem is denial - yes, a lot of these kids have serious problems, often as a result of multi-generational dysfunction. But the school system and current political system wants to whitewash it and just mainstream these kids, pretending those issues at home don't really exist. The reality is that some of those kids DO need diversions into special ed or mental health services, intensive programs to help them keep up, stay in school and off the streets - and yes, in some cases may need to be separated entirely from toxic home situations or other more intensive diversions for reform but that immediately gets slapped down with "tHaTs RAYciST!!!!1!" because most of the kids who are struggling are black. But no, that's not it at all. If ALL black kids were being diverted, you might have a point, but since not all black kids would be, you don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This problem got much much worse when we decided to excuse crime instead of punishing it. I agree that we need more mental health care etc, but in no way does that mean we should allow crime. Yall have lost your mind, and the city has gone to crap because of your idiotic ideas.

Don’t be patting yourself on the back for this stupidity. Those with means have or will leave. It is those who don’t who are getting screwed by these horribly shortsighted virtue signaling anarchistic ideas. Black Lives Matter, so stop killing people by allowing rampant crime to go uncountered. Honestly, anyone who has supported the current political framework has so much blood on their hands. Your stupid progressive ideas are killing people!

Exactly. I'm as liberal as they come but I just can't with some of these people out there. There is not a single teenage carjacker doing it "because he went without a meal because his family is poor." They aren't doing this to feed their families. The uber-progressives excusing crime are out of touch with these kids and need to just sit down and shut up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We did the heavy prison penalties for these crimes in the 90s, people. It didn't deter a single criminal from making DC the country's homicide capital. Unsupervised, angry teens living in poverty and deprivation will always turn to crime. Having schools provide more Special Education and mental health services, truancy accountability, and even raising the minimum wage so poor parents have to work fewer jobs and can spend more time at home supervising their kids would make a big difference. The minimum wage in DC should be at least 20 an hour with how expensive everything is here.

+Agree, minimum wage is abysmal here. It is too expensive to have it lower than $22 an hour. Poor children in every country will turn to crime for entertainment and to eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the 25 and younger for night curfew, simply because you must now be 21 yrs or older to purchase nicotine. Exceptions to the 25 and younger curfew would be those in college or grad school working late night jobs and they should be required to have a pass.

So the 25 year old big law first year coming home at midnight needs to get a pass to walk home?