No Labels/House to certify Election Coup

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Anonymous wrote:The house of reps could be Dem by next January

Yes, I actually expect the House to flip to majority Democratic. But in the scenario where no presidential candidate gets 270 and the vote is thrown to the House, the delegation from each state gets one vote and the Republicans have more states.

How long has it been since a 3rd party candidate actually won a state?

George Wallace in 1968. He won 5 states and 46 electoral college votes. Nixon still carried 301 EC votes to win the Presidency outright, while Humphrey had 191.

Perot didn’t win any states in 1992

Correct. Perot secured 19% of the total vote running against the political powerhouses Clinton and GHWB. Imagine what a viable 3rd party candidate could do against the elderly and unpopular Trump and Biden.

Can't imagine third party winning a single state.

Someone has to win them.

Third party candidates do not win states. Not for many decades. What state will elect and third party candidate and who?

The 2024 election is different from any past presidential election in modern times. We've never had two presumed to be well in advance nominees as unpopular as Trump and Biden. If Ross Perot can garner 19% of the total votes running against studs like Clinton and Bush, imagine what a more qualified and more well known candidate than Perot could do against Trump and Biden.

Sure. Name the third party candidate and how many electoral college votes they are winning in which states. This should be good.

That 3rd party candidate hasn't emerged yet so this is impossible to answer. They might not emerge. Until they do, the race is between Trump and Biden. The appetite for a legitimate 3rd party candidate is more apparent than it has ever been in our lifetimes so the opportunity is there for the taking. We'll know if Trump and Biden will have any real competition by March/April. Until then, we're stuck with the Trump or Biden choice and yes, it's fair to discount RFK Jr. and other 3rd party candidates currently in the race as they aren't legitimate contenders even against Trump and Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:The house of reps could be Dem by next January

Yes, I actually expect the House to flip to majority Democratic. But in the scenario where no presidential candidate gets 270 and the vote is thrown to the House, the delegation from each state gets one vote and the Republicans have more states.

How long has it been since a 3rd party candidate actually won a state?

George Wallace in 1968. He won 5 states and 46 electoral college votes. Nixon still carried 301 EC votes to win the Presidency outright, while Humphrey had 191.

Perot didn’t win any states in 1992

Correct. Perot secured 19% of the total vote running against the political powerhouses Clinton and GHWB. Imagine what a viable 3rd party candidate could do against the elderly and unpopular Trump and Biden.

Can't imagine third party winning a single state.

Someone has to win them.

Third party candidates do not win states. Not for many decades. What state will elect and third party candidate and who?

The 2024 election is different from any past presidential election in modern times. We've never had two presumed to be well in advance nominees as unpopular as Trump and Biden. If Ross Perot can garner 19% of the total votes running against studs like Clinton and Bush, imagine what a more qualified and more well known candidate than Perot could do against Trump and Biden.

Sure. Name the third party candidate and how many electoral college votes they are winning in which states. This should be good.

That 3rd party candidate hasn't emerged yet so this is impossible to answer. They might not emerge. Until they do, the race is between Trump and Biden. The appetite for a legitimate 3rd party candidate is more apparent than it has ever been in our lifetimes so the opportunity is there for the taking. We'll know if Trump and Biden will have any real competition by March/April. Until then, we're stuck with the Trump or Biden choice and yes, it's fair to discount RFK Jr. and other 3rd party candidates currently in the race as they aren't legitimate contenders even against Trump and Biden.

Impossible because there isn't one name or state you could propose that would answer the question.

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Anonymous wrote:The house of reps could be Dem by next January

Yes, I actually expect the House to flip to majority Democratic. But in the scenario where no presidential candidate gets 270 and the vote is thrown to the House, the delegation from each state gets one vote and the Republicans have more states.

How long has it been since a 3rd party candidate actually won a state?

George Wallace in 1968. He won 5 states and 46 electoral college votes. Nixon still carried 301 EC votes to win the Presidency outright, while Humphrey had 191.

Perot didn’t win any states in 1992

Correct. Perot secured 19% of the total vote running against the political powerhouses Clinton and GHWB. Imagine what a viable 3rd party candidate could do against the elderly and unpopular Trump and Biden.

Can't imagine third party winning a single state.

Someone has to win them.

Third party candidates do not win states. Not for many decades. What state will elect and third party candidate and who?

The 2024 election is different from any past presidential election in modern times. We've never had two presumed to be well in advance nominees as unpopular as Trump and Biden. If Ross Perot can garner 19% of the total votes running against studs like Clinton and Bush, imagine what a more qualified and more well known candidate than Perot could do against Trump and Biden.

Sure. Name the third party candidate and how many electoral college votes they are winning in which states. This should be good.

That 3rd party candidate hasn't emerged yet so this is impossible to answer. They might not emerge. Until they do, the race is between Trump and Biden. The appetite for a legitimate 3rd party candidate is more apparent than it has ever been in our lifetimes so the opportunity is there for the taking. We'll know if Trump and Biden will have any real competition by March/April. Until then, we're stuck with the Trump or Biden choice and yes, it's fair to discount RFK Jr. and other 3rd party candidates currently in the race as they aren't legitimate contenders even against Trump and Biden.

Impossible because there isn't one name or state you could propose that would answer the question.

Correct because there is no viable 3rd party candidate in the race at this point.

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Anonymous wrote:The house of reps could be Dem by next January

Yes, I actually expect the House to flip to majority Democratic. But in the scenario where no presidential candidate gets 270 and the vote is thrown to the House, the delegation from each state gets one vote and the Republicans have more states.

How long has it been since a 3rd party candidate actually won a state?

George Wallace in 1968. He won 5 states and 46 electoral college votes. Nixon still carried 301 EC votes to win the Presidency outright, while Humphrey had 191.

Perot didn’t win any states in 1992

Correct. Perot secured 19% of the total vote running against the political powerhouses Clinton and GHWB. Imagine what a viable 3rd party candidate could do against the elderly and unpopular Trump and Biden.

Can't imagine third party winning a single state.

Someone has to win them.

Third party candidates do not win states. Not for many decades. What state will elect and third party candidate and who?

The 2024 election is different from any past presidential election in modern times. We've never had two presumed to be well in advance nominees as unpopular as Trump and Biden. If Ross Perot can garner 19% of the total votes running against studs like Clinton and Bush, imagine what a more qualified and more well known candidate than Perot could do against Trump and Biden.

Sure. Name the third party candidate and how many electoral college votes they are winning in which states. This should be good.

That 3rd party candidate hasn't emerged yet so this is impossible to answer. They might not emerge. Until they do, the race is between Trump and Biden. The appetite for a legitimate 3rd party candidate is more apparent than it has ever been in our lifetimes so the opportunity is there for the taking. We'll know if Trump and Biden will have any real competition by March/April. Until then, we're stuck with the Trump or Biden choice and yes, it's fair to discount RFK Jr. and other 3rd party candidates currently in the race as they aren't legitimate contenders even against Trump and Biden.

Impossible because there isn't one name or state you could propose that would answer the question.

Correct because there is no viable 3rd party candidate in the race at this point.

It's late January 2024 and you can't even come up with a viable suggestion that could win even a single state.

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The Rock? He is really the only possible candidate that I could see coming in and garnering support.

I’m not saying I am supporting this in any way, to be clear.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rock? He is really the only possible candidate that I could see coming in and garnering support.

I’m not saying I am supporting this in any way, to be clear.

Both Al Gore and Mitt Romney are younger than than the current major party front runners.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rock? He is really the only possible candidate that I could see coming in and garnering support.

I’m not saying I am supporting this in any way, to be clear.

Both Al Gore and Mitt Romney are younger than than the current major party front runners.

Al Gore and Mitt Romney are not going to win any state.

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Anonymous wrote:The Rock? He is really the only possible candidate that I could see coming in and garnering support.

I’m not saying I am supporting this in any way, to be clear.

Both Al Gore and Mitt Romney are younger than than the current major party front runners.

Al Gore and Mitt Romney are not going to win any state.

Probably not because they aren't running for president knucklehead!

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Anonymous wrote:The house of reps could be Dem by next January

Yes, I actually expect the House to flip to majority Democratic. But in the scenario where no presidential candidate gets 270 and the vote is thrown to the House, the delegation from each state gets one vote and the Republicans have more states.

How long has it been since a 3rd party candidate actually won a state?

They usually don't but who knows what will happen in 2024 considering how weak the major party candidates are.

Joe Biden is pretty F-ing strong! Polls don't indicate how people will vote. Heck, they don't even ask the right questions and they are usually not likely voters (just registered). Biden has been a great President and the country is better off. Gas prices are low, stock market is high, the number of people with health insurance is up, I could go on. If No Labels were serious they would have a candidate. They aren't. They need to put up a candidate or shut up.

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Anonymous wrote:This just in, No Labels hoping to act as the spoilers for the benefit of the GOP; willing and able on multiple levels.

You are clueless if you think people like Joe Lieberman and Ben Chavis would support an effort to help Trump get re-elected in 2024. They could very well save us from a Trump second term.

This is how serious No Labels is about minimizing how bad Trump is, from a No Labels leader and former Democratic governor of Missouri. Beyond parody.

https://www.notus.org/2024-election/no-labels-wants-to-save-america-from-biden-and-trump

Yep. “No Labels” is there to get the GOP into power, nothing more.

All those of you who “both sides” incessantly should take a look at yourselves. You’re as bad as these guys.

God forbid there be a 3rd party challenge to our two major political parties that are giving us the Trump vs Biden rematch that the majority of Americans do not want. I have a suggestion for the GOP and Dem leaders and campaign organizers- if you don't want a political movement that involves a 3rd political party challenge to your longstanding stranglehold on American politics, you simply need to do more listening to the American people and less listening to your network of rich and powerful donors.

If you think D & R are the same and want an alternative, start with local government. Or State government, or Congress etc.

You can’t just have a 3rd party for President.

When you think like a child/a Republican who wants their way you run a spoiler candidate for the top of the ticket and do not further work.

It’s binary. Remember: Nader, Nader, Sanders/Stein. For crying out loud here’s No Labels explaining how they plan on interfering with democracy! They’re nothing but spoilers. “People deserve another ChOiCe!” That’s not how this works. You talk like that and you’re trying to get a Republican in office. Ask yourself why you’re working on behalf of fascism.

You and I may hate the prospects of a 3rd party candidate playing the role of spoiler in a manner that gets Trump elected but much of the rest of the country and especially in swing states, they don't see this the same way. Biden is a very weak candidate per the perception of a majority of Americans relative to the historically norm for an incumbent and that, along with Trump's obvious weakness, opens the door for a spoiler or an actual contending 3rd party candidate to be a major factor. You can convince the most reliable Dem voters to vote for Biden no matter but the folks in the swing states that will decide the election aren't listening. Nader and Stein were the spoiler type candidate you are concerned about just as RFK Jr is. If a No labels candidate enters the race, it won't be a spoiler nobody candidate, it will be a well known, well qualified candidate with adequate funding and they'll draw support from a large portion of those voters that decided the 2016 and 2020 races. Whine and point fingers all you want. It won't change the dynamics of the 2024 presidential race.

I don't know who are are talking about. I speak with reliable Dems in swing states every week (pretty heavy volunteer). The ONLY reliable Dems I've heard not voting for Biden are a handful in the New Hamshire primary who are pissed they lost 1st in the Nation primary. But they are quick to tell me they will definately be voting for Biden in the general.

Tell me, who are you TALKING to? Not reading on social media, but making calls to real people about how they feel about Joe Biden. If you are only going off social media or polls, I suggest you volunteer with the campaign to make calls and you will realize what you are spewing is hogwash.