We need DC police to walk beats again - get out of cars and talk to people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

The police budget numbers say otherwise. That makes you the liar. Period. End of discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

The police budget numbers say otherwise. That makes you the liar. Period. End of discussion.

Uh huh.

“Police budget.”

Use that as your fig leaf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

The police budget numbers say otherwise. That makes you the liar. Period. End of discussion.

Uh huh.

“Police budget.”

Use that as your fig leaf.

“Arrest powers.”

The federal standard for a “law enforcement officer” is whether that person has “arrest powers.” That standard includes carrying a sidearm (a handgun), handcuffs, and the legal authority to detain and arrest a suspect.

DC has DECREASED the number of MPD officers with arrest powers.

They have many more “violence interrupters,” who have no arrest powers.

Negotiators. Counselors. Community liaisons. All are technically “MPD employees,” but they are not police officers and do not have arrest powers.

THIS is how DC and other cities have truly implemented “defund the police.”

Sure, the “police budget” may be the same, but let there be no doubt:

- police have indeed been defunded, in so many ways.

The PP up thread is lying to you. Police have been defunded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

The police budget numbers say otherwise. That makes you the liar. Period. End of discussion.

Uh huh.

“Police budget.”

Use that as your fig leaf.

“Arrest powers.”

The federal standard for a “law enforcement officer” is whether that person has “arrest powers.” That standard includes carrying a sidearm (a handgun), handcuffs, and the legal authority to detain and arrest a suspect.

DC has DECREASED the number of MPD officers with arrest powers.

They have many more “violence interrupters,” who have no arrest powers.

Negotiators. Counselors. Community liaisons. All are technically “MPD employees,” but they are not police officers and do not have arrest powers.

THIS is how DC and other cities have truly implemented “defund the police.”

Sure, the “police budget” may be the same, but let there be no doubt:

- police have indeed been defunded, in so many ways.

The PP up thread is lying to you. Police have been defunded.

[CITATION NEEDED]
If you expect anyone to believe what you posted just now, you NEED to back it up. Post some REAL NUMBERS on what the reduction, if any, actually is, along with posting actual data on why any reduction in arrest powers happened. Were police officers actually driven out of the force? No. They left of their own volition. "Oh gee I can't be completely unaccountable and no longer allowed to basically be a criminal gang with badges?" Come on man. And don't think we didn't see things like the MPD fxckwads chomping on cigars while fistbumping known, violent Proud Boy felons who were caught on video assaulting DC citizens. We got your fxking numbers bro. Clean your shit up if you want our support. CLEAN IT UP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friendly reminder that recall petitions for elected officials in DC can begin any time from Jan. 3.

Sadly we can't recall the lazy do-nothing USAOs who won't prosecute violent repeat offenders - or the judges and sentencing commission who keep letting them right back out on the street to go victimize more people.

Or can we...?[/quote

The Sentencing Commission that the DC Council just appointed a murderer to serve on? One who just served a 27 year sentence? You know how rare that is here. No victims or victims' family members serve on the Commission. Then Mendelson attempted to hide it by holding hearings on the appointment before public notice, guess they thought public comment might not be favorable? I'm sure that murderer will be very victim focused. Much like these COA judges who just made it much more difficult to GPS monitor dangerous releasees in DC. Former public defender judges, color me shocked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

I am not the poster of the defund pic, but there was an uptick in crime after the seismic social justice movement of 2020, plus COVID. Even though most cities including DC were flush with federal money during covid - none of the equity programming they directed a lot of it to (sometimes bizarrely) seems to have offset the changes in policies and policing they also oversaw. I think it's like when a teenager realizes their parent actually has no power to ground them if they just want to walk out the door - the criminals of DC discovered that there is zero will, and often very favorable laws that lean towards leniency for them. LEA standing by (as directed by politicians and the social climate) in 2020 while expensive plate windows were smashed and stores looted and the city painting messages that offset the "people" from "the police" certainly didn't help. Of course it's all compounded by a non functioning crime lab and cretinous prosecutors, but the sea change began with the heavy handed defund rhetoric and related pro criminal policy changes like the disastrous Allen law and messaging. Since then our city feels like it is welcoming to criminals, and literally no one else. Not police and certainly not residents and visitors. It sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

The police budget numbers say otherwise. That makes you the liar. Period. End of discussion.

Uh huh.

“Police budget.”

Use that as your fig leaf.

“Arrest powers.”

The federal standard for a “law enforcement officer” is whether that person has “arrest powers.” That standard includes carrying a sidearm (a handgun), handcuffs, and the legal authority to detain and arrest a suspect.

DC has DECREASED the number of MPD officers with arrest powers.

They have many more “violence interrupters,” who have no arrest powers.

Negotiators. Counselors. Community liaisons. All are technically “MPD employees,” but they are not police officers and do not have arrest powers.

THIS is how DC and other cities have truly implemented “defund the police.”

Sure, the “police budget” may be the same, but let there be no doubt:

- police have indeed been defunded, in so many ways.

The PP up thread is lying to you. Police have been defunded.

[CITATION NEEDED]
If you expect anyone to believe what you posted just now, you NEED to back it up. Post some REAL NUMBERS on what the reduction, if any, actually is, along with posting actual data on why any reduction in arrest powers happened. Were police officers actually driven out of the force? No. They left of their own volition. "Oh gee I can't be completely unaccountable and no longer allowed to basically be a criminal gang with badges?" Come on man. And don't think we didn't see things like the MPD fxckwads chomping on cigars while fistbumping known, violent Proud Boy felons who were caught on video assaulting DC citizens. We got your fxking numbers bro. Clean your shit up if you want our support. CLEAN IT UP.

Someone struck a nerve lol. I hope you stroked out after typing that but in case you didn’t, Google is your friend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Stop lying.

The police budget numbers say otherwise. That makes you the liar. Period. End of discussion.

Uh huh.

“Police budget.”

Use that as your fig leaf.

“Arrest powers.”

The federal standard for a “law enforcement officer” is whether that person has “arrest powers.” That standard includes carrying a sidearm (a handgun), handcuffs, and the legal authority to detain and arrest a suspect.

DC has DECREASED the number of MPD officers with arrest powers.

They have many more “violence interrupters,” who have no arrest powers.

Negotiators. Counselors. Community liaisons. All are technically “MPD employees,” but they are not police officers and do not have arrest powers.

THIS is how DC and other cities have truly implemented “defund the police.”

Sure, the “police budget” may be the same, but let there be no doubt:

- police have indeed been defunded, in so many ways.

The PP up thread is lying to you. Police have been defunded.

[CITATION NEEDED]
If you expect anyone to believe what you posted just now, you NEED to back it up. Post some REAL NUMBERS on what the reduction, if any, actually is, along with posting actual data on why any reduction in arrest powers happened. Were police officers actually driven out of the force? No. They left of their own volition. "Oh gee I can't be completely unaccountable and no longer allowed to basically be a criminal gang with badges?" Come on man. And don't think we didn't see things like the MPD fxckwads chomping on cigars while fistbumping known, violent Proud Boy felons who were caught on video assaulting DC citizens. We got your fxking numbers bro. Clean your shit up if you want our support. CLEAN IT UP.

Someone struck a nerve lol. I hope you stroked out after typing that but in case you didn’t, Google is your friend.

DP who would also like you to show your work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

Allen, Nadeau, and JLG took credit for defunding MPD.

Were they lying?

[Anonymous]

I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

[Anonymous]

I don't get it. I've had a couple of bad/youthful experiences with police...never in DC though. They are possibly the most mellow DC force in the world, basically inclined to urge you to move along. Where did the animosity towards our police come from? The defund movement may have wanted money for other things==social workers etc--but I don't see why we can't fund both. DC police aren't "known" for their atrocities. There aren't a succession of famous cases. If anything, they have shown heroism on multiple occasions.. like 1/6. Yes, people scream every time demonstrators are arrested (newsflash--get a permit!) and anytime they try to do proactive police work like task forces there is some kind of lawsuit because equity. It stinks that our police force got sucked up in the 2020 social justice maelstron by a bunch of SF liberal types, likely transplants, hellbent on experimenting with and destroying our town.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP,

Do you expect MPD officers to walk a beat on this street?



You have told DC’s police what you think of them.

Why do you expect them to care about you now?

Why would they bother risking everything when you only want to prosecute police officers and not criminals?

You progressives did this. Now you get to live with the consequences of your actions.

You can post that picture all you like but ultimately it's meaningless, because DC *DID NOT* defund police in any meaningful way, and certainly NOT so much that it could even remotely account for the increase in crime. If your police union is telling you otherwise, they are full of shit and they are the problem.

As police officers you swear an oath to uphold law and to protect and serve your community. REGARDLESS of your police union leaders being snowflakes upset about some dumb shit painted on a pavement.

I am not the poster of the defund pic, but there was an uptick in crime after the seismic social justice movement of 2020, plus COVID. Even though most cities including DC were flush with federal money during covid - none of the equity programming they directed a lot of it to (sometimes bizarrely) seems to have offset the changes in policies and policing they also oversaw. I think it's like when a teenager realizes their parent actually has no power to ground them if they just want to walk out the door - the criminals of DC discovered that there is zero will, and often very favorable laws that lean towards leniency for them. LEA standing by (as directed by politicians and the social climate) in 2020 while expensive plate windows were smashed and stores looted and the city painting messages that offset the "people" from "the police" certainly didn't help. Of course it's all compounded by a non functioning crime lab and cretinous prosecutors, but the sea change began with the heavy handed defund rhetoric and related pro criminal policy changes like the disastrous Allen law and messaging. Since then our city feels like it is welcoming to criminals, and literally no one else. Not police and certainly not residents and visitors. It sucks.

Agreed. Very well said. It’s unfortunate what’s happened to our city in just a few year’s time. Disgrunted DC Democrat who is highly in favor of greater enforcement and police funding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't get it. I've had a couple of bad/youthful experiences with police...never in DC though. They are possibly the most mellow DC force in the world, basically inclined to urge you to move along. Where did the animosity towards our police come from? The defund movement may have wanted money for other things==social workers etc--but I don't see why we can't fund both. DC police aren't "known" for their atrocities. There aren't a succession of famous cases. If anything, they have shown heroism on multiple occasions.. like 1/6. Yes, people scream every time demonstrators are arrested (newsflash--get a permit!) and anytime they try to do proactive police work like task forces there is some kind of lawsuit because equity. It stinks that our police force got sucked up in the 2020 social justice maelstron by a bunch of SF liberal types, likely transplants, hellbent on experimenting with and destroying our town.

Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.