We need DC police to walk beats again - get out of cars and talk to people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.

No, it was not because they felt “butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing” - as you put it.

DC police stopped risking their careers after Baltimore’s former criminal prosecutor (who is herself a criminal), decided to back BLM and attempt to criminally prosecute city police officers for doing their jobs (the officers were all found innocent and exonerated, BTW).

Progressive DC wants to prosecute its own police officers? FOR DOING THEIR JOBS??!
Hmm - what would be a logical response if YOU were an MPD officer?

Wow, you're really reaching here. Baltimore's prosecutor isn't in charge of DC. And, she ended up flaming out, screwing up and becoming irrelevant anyhow. And out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in DC during and in the years since the BLM protests, how many of those actually resulted in MPD officers being prosecuted for "doing their jobs?" Virtually none.

So yes, it IS about feeling butthurt over some mean words from randos during the BLM thing. Maybe it's given you a persecution complex over the possibility of being prosecuted even though that's HIGHLY unlikely to even happen, particularly if you use common sense and good judgement and don't do anything that's going to make you look like a scumbag on video. It still remains the fact that nobody is actually keeping MPD from doing their jobs. One wonders if some in MPD just want to punish the city over BLM and are choosing to not do their jobs and are letting crime run out of control.

DP here. I asked a question pages ago and I don’t think it was answered. Neighboring Montgomery County had passed over 20 bills in the past 3 years altering and restricting what police can do. When they are sitting around, it’s likely because the politicians literally don’t want them doing the job for which they were hired. The politicians have called for a reduction in staffing of 50% in an effort to limit police interactions with the public. (I even posted that link.)

I’m curious: has the DC council done similar? If so, that goes a far way to explain why police might not be responding the way you want them to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.

No, it was not because they felt “butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing” - as you put it.

DC police stopped risking their careers after Baltimore’s former criminal prosecutor (who is herself a criminal), decided to back BLM and attempt to criminally prosecute city police officers for doing their jobs (the officers were all found innocent and exonerated, BTW).

Progressive DC wants to prosecute its own police officers? FOR DOING THEIR JOBS??!
Hmm - what would be a logical response if YOU were an MPD officer?

Wow, you're really reaching here. Baltimore's prosecutor isn't in charge of DC. And, she ended up flaming out, screwing up and becoming irrelevant anyhow. And out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in DC during and in the years since the BLM protests, how many of those actually resulted in MPD officers being prosecuted for "doing their jobs?" Virtually none.

So yes, it IS about feeling butthurt over some mean words from randos during the BLM thing. Maybe it's given you a persecution complex over the possibility of being prosecuted even though that's HIGHLY unlikely to even happen, particularly if you use common sense and good judgement and don't do anything that's going to make you look like a scumbag on video. It still remains the fact that nobody is actually keeping MPD from doing their jobs. One wonders if some in MPD just want to punish the city over BLM and are choosing to not do their jobs and are letting crime run out of control.

There is no crime crisis in DC.

[Anonymous]

Rap songs all tout

“you under 18, you won’t be doing no time”

But for D.C., rappers need to rap the truth:

“you are under the age of 26; you will not be doing any jail/prison time.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.

No, it was not because they felt “butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing” - as you put it.

DC police stopped risking their careers after Baltimore’s former criminal prosecutor (who is herself a criminal), decided to back BLM and attempt to criminally prosecute city police officers for doing their jobs (the officers were all found innocent and exonerated, BTW).

Progressive DC wants to prosecute its own police officers? FOR DOING THEIR JOBS??!
Hmm - what would be a logical response if YOU were an MPD officer?

Wow, you're really reaching here. Baltimore's prosecutor isn't in charge of DC. And, she ended up flaming out, screwing up and becoming irrelevant anyhow. And out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in DC during and in the years since the BLM protests, how many of those actually resulted in MPD officers being prosecuted for "doing their jobs?" Virtually none.

So yes, it IS about feeling butthurt over some mean words from randos during the BLM thing. Maybe it's given you a persecution complex over the possibility of being prosecuted even though that's HIGHLY unlikely to even happen, particularly if you use common sense and good judgement and don't do anything that's going to make you look like a scumbag on video. It still remains the fact that nobody is actually keeping MPD from doing their jobs. One wonders if some in MPD just want to punish the city over BLM and are choosing to not do their jobs and are letting crime run out of control.

There is no crime crisis in DC.

Dont be dumb. Nobody in this thread is saying that. We do have a crime crisis. And MPD isn't doing nearly enough to address it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.

No, it was not because they felt “butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing” - as you put it.

DC police stopped risking their careers after Baltimore’s former criminal prosecutor (who is herself a criminal), decided to back BLM and attempt to criminally prosecute city police officers for doing their jobs (the officers were all found innocent and exonerated, BTW).

Progressive DC wants to prosecute its own police officers? FOR DOING THEIR JOBS??!
Hmm - what would be a logical response if YOU were an MPD officer?

Wow, you're really reaching here. Baltimore's prosecutor isn't in charge of DC. And, she ended up flaming out, screwing up and becoming irrelevant anyhow. And out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in DC during and in the years since the BLM protests, how many of those actually resulted in MPD officers being prosecuted for "doing their jobs?" Virtually none.

So yes, it IS about feeling butthurt over some mean words from randos during the BLM thing. Maybe it's given you a persecution complex over the possibility of being prosecuted even though that's HIGHLY unlikely to even happen, particularly if you use common sense and good judgement and don't do anything that's going to make you look like a scumbag on video. It still remains the fact that nobody is actually keeping MPD from doing their jobs. One wonders if some in MPD just want to punish the city over BLM and are choosing to not do their jobs and are letting crime run out of control.

DP here. I asked a question pages ago and I don’t think it was answered. Neighboring Montgomery County had passed over 20 bills in the past 3 years altering and restricting what police can do. When they are sitting around, it’s likely because the politicians literally don’t want them doing the job for which they were hired. The politicians have called for a reduction in staffing of 50% in an effort to limit police interactions with the public. (I even posted that link.)

I’m curious: has the DC council done similar? If so, that goes a far way to explain why police might not be responding the way you want them to.

What's with all the whataboutism about Baltimore and other places? The question in this thread is DC. DC did try and do some crime bill reforms, but they did not restrict police, and Bowser wanted a more aggressive bill to go after crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.

No, it was not because they felt “butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing” - as you put it.

DC police stopped risking their careers after Baltimore’s former criminal prosecutor (who is herself a criminal), decided to back BLM and attempt to criminally prosecute city police officers for doing their jobs (the officers were all found innocent and exonerated, BTW).

Progressive DC wants to prosecute its own police officers? FOR DOING THEIR JOBS??!
Hmm - what would be a logical response if YOU were an MPD officer?

Wow, you're really reaching here. Baltimore's prosecutor isn't in charge of DC. And, she ended up flaming out, screwing up and becoming irrelevant anyhow. And out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in DC during and in the years since the BLM protests, how many of those actually resulted in MPD officers being prosecuted for "doing their jobs?" Virtually none.

So yes, it IS about feeling butthurt over some mean words from randos during the BLM thing. Maybe it's given you a persecution complex over the possibility of being prosecuted even though that's HIGHLY unlikely to even happen, particularly if you use common sense and good judgement and don't do anything that's going to make you look like a scumbag on video. It still remains the fact that nobody is actually keeping MPD from doing their jobs. One wonders if some in MPD just want to punish the city over BLM and are choosing to not do their jobs and are letting crime run out of control.

DP here. I asked a question pages ago and I don’t think it was answered. Neighboring Montgomery County had passed over 20 bills in the past 3 years altering and restricting what police can do. When they are sitting around, it’s likely because the politicians literally don’t want them doing the job for which they were hired. The politicians have called for a reduction in staffing of 50% in an effort to limit police interactions with the public. (I even posted that link.)

I’m curious: has the DC council done similar? If so, that goes a far way to explain why police might not be responding the way you want them to.

What's with all the whataboutism about Baltimore and other places? The question in this thread is DC. DC did try and do some crime bill reforms, but they did not restrict police, and Bowser wanted a more aggressive bill to go after crime.

DC does not want the MPD to do their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I see the "DC DEFUNDED THE POLICE" poster still hasn't come through with the numbers to back up the claim.

FAIL.

Well, of course there won't be any numbers to back up the "DC defunded the police" claim because the reality is that the big "cut" consisted of not getting $15m of a $530m police budget. That's a tiny 2.8% of the police budget. And looking at what happened as a result of that tiny 2.8% budget reduction - arrests went from 28,000 down to 15,000, whereas crime soared. Homicides tripled, carjackings and armed robberies skyrocketed. Basically, a big part of DC's police force simply stopped doing their jobs. It's NOT EVEN that DC is hamstrung, that DC is underfunded or understaffed, because DC is one of the highest-funded places in the country for police, and DC has more police per capita than just about any other city in America. And that doesn't even include all of the federal police departments operating in the city, like Park Police, Capitol Police, Secret Service, Federal Protective Service, nor does it include all of the specialized police departments in DC, like Metro Transit Police, DC Housing Police and so on.

What that tells me is that many in DC police simply stopped doing their jobs. They were butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing and so basically stopped doing their jobs. They still show up and collect their checks but aren't doing anything for it. And it shows, over and over again, with the constant comments like "who'd want to be a cop when..." as if it somehow justifies not doing their jobs. It doesn't. They swore an oath to protect and serve, and they are being paid to do their jobs.

No, it was not because they felt “butthurt over comments made during the whole BLM thing” - as you put it.

DC police stopped risking their careers after Baltimore’s former criminal prosecutor (who is herself a criminal), decided to back BLM and attempt to criminally prosecute city police officers for doing their jobs (the officers were all found innocent and exonerated, BTW).

Progressive DC wants to prosecute its own police officers? FOR DOING THEIR JOBS??!
Hmm - what would be a logical response if YOU were an MPD officer?

Wow, you're really reaching here. Baltimore's prosecutor isn't in charge of DC. And, she ended up flaming out, screwing up and becoming irrelevant anyhow. And out of the tens of thousands of arrests that happened in DC during and in the years since the BLM protests, how many of those actually resulted in MPD officers being prosecuted for "doing their jobs?" Virtually none.

So yes, it IS about feeling butthurt over some mean words from randos during the BLM thing. Maybe it's given you a persecution complex over the possibility of being prosecuted even though that's HIGHLY unlikely to even happen, particularly if you use common sense and good judgement and don't do anything that's going to make you look like a scumbag on video. It still remains the fact that nobody is actually keeping MPD from doing their jobs. One wonders if some in MPD just want to punish the city over BLM and are choosing to not do their jobs and are letting crime run out of control.

DP here. I asked a question pages ago and I don’t think it was answered. Neighboring Montgomery County had passed over 20 bills in the past 3 years altering and restricting what police can do. When they are sitting around, it’s likely because the politicians literally don’t want them doing the job for which they were hired. The politicians have called for a reduction in staffing of 50% in an effort to limit police interactions with the public. (I even posted that link.)

I’m curious: has the DC council done similar? If so, that goes a far way to explain why police might not be responding the way you want them to.

What's with all the whataboutism about Baltimore and other places? The question in this thread is DC. DC did try and do some crime bill reforms, but they did not restrict police, and Bowser wanted a more aggressive bill to go after crime.

DC does not want the MPD to do their jobs.

Weird. Then why are they offering big hiring bonuses and things to help with MPD recruitment?

I mean that sarcastically.

Look, you have been saying the same crap over and over again on these threads in the last week and people have given example after example of why you're wrong, like "they defunded MPD" when it was only 2.8% and "they want to prosecute MPD officers for doing their jobs" when less than 0.2% of arrests have resulted in any kind of prosecution.

Your rhetoric has been repeatedly debunked. Just stop already.

[Anonymous]

So to recap:

- DC did not defund MPD. A 2.8% cut does not make that a credible claim.

- DC is not trying to gut MPD staffing. They are offering generous recruitment bonuses.

- DC did not restrict MPD with laws keeping them from doing their jobs.

- DC is not prosecuting MPD officers for doing their jobs. The extremely low prosecution rate of less than 0.2% does not make that a credible claim.

- DC is not trying to hamper prosecutions, their regaining components of accreditation for the Crime Lab shows this.

Could DC do more? Sure. But to claim that DC does not want policing in the face of all of those facts is nothing short of disingenuously idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So to recap:

- DC did not defund MPD. A 2.8% cut does not make that a credible claim.

- DC is not trying to gut MPD staffing. They are offering generous recruitment bonuses.

- DC did not restrict MPD with laws keeping them from doing their jobs.

- DC is not prosecuting MPD officers for doing their jobs. The extremely low prosecution rate of less than 0.2% does not make that a credible claim.

- DC is not trying to hamper prosecutions, their regaining components of accreditation for the Crime Lab shows this.

Could DC do more? Sure. But to claim that DC does not want policing in the face of all of those facts is nothing short of disingenuously idiotic.

And, I forgot to add: the so-called “crime crisis” in DC is a total myth and complete right-wing fabrication.

There is no crime crisis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to recap:

- DC did not defund MPD. A 2.8% cut does not make that a credible claim.

- DC is not trying to gut MPD staffing. They are offering generous recruitment bonuses.

- DC did not restrict MPD with laws keeping them from doing their jobs.

- DC is not prosecuting MPD officers for doing their jobs. The extremely low prosecution rate of less than 0.2% does not make that a credible claim.

- DC is not trying to hamper prosecutions, their regaining components of accreditation for the Crime Lab shows this.

Could DC do more? Sure. But to claim that DC does not want policing in the face of all of those facts is nothing short of disingenuously idiotic.

And, I forgot to add: the so-called “crime crisis” in DC is a total myth and complete right-wing fabrication.

There is no crime crisis.

Nobody in this thread but you is claiming that. You keep making a fool of yourself throwing that strawman out there but given you can't actually argue the facts that's all you have. It's pretty pathetic.