This is OP and he does think I’m controlling. I disagree. I said I really didn’t want him to get yet another tool for an expensive specialized space consuming hobby that he hasn’t touched in well over a year and has only vague plans of resuming. Say he likes to tinker with cars, and we don’t have a garage, so there’s now a car and parts for another car that he spent thousands of dollars that was earmarked for other things under tarps in our back yard. In contrast, he has about 3 times the number of shoes as I do, which I think is really silly, but I’ve never provided any kind of input on him purchasing, nor have I wanted to. I said yes to all the trips, and he was completely out of touch and outspent the agreed upon budget significantly every time. I had kids waiting to FaceTime with him repeatedly and he just didn’t show at the times he scheduled for the calls, then hours of me explaining I didn’t know why he couldn’t talk to them. So the last time he mentioned a trip I said I really don’t want him to do it. He’s going. We are not paycheck to paycheck but we do have debt and our savings is not where it should be. We have set goals and a path to reach them that we’re not keeping to. I don’t have equivalent expenditures. |
I mean, you should definitely still feel like a jerk. That was a completely unreasonable and irrational request. Products like this (link below) cost practically nothing nowadays and they've been a super affordable option for many, many years -- before them were the over the ear wireless headphones that did the same exact thing. You wouldn't have heard the TV, you could still be in the same room, he could've still enjoyed his show, there'd be no... "bristling" 🙄 and all would be right in your world again. However, rather than thinking of a simple compromise (like having him watching in another room for that 30 minutes/hour, or using buds like these) you basically "ordered" him to stop doing something that he enjoyed. I can't imagine you'd grant him the same request if the tables were turned though, because something tells me this wasn't your first unreasonable request (even though you repeately claimed it was). Don't be surprised when he starts becoming sneaky to watch things -- and then all of a sudden you start posting that your husband is up to something and you think he's having an affair. I just cannot with this kind of attitude. https://a.co/d/0iL3L26 |
This is extremely dysfunctional and unhealthy... why do you stay??? We get ONE life to live, people. Is this the way you've always pictured yours going... feeling resentful, spiteful and unhappy? |
Ok, I was with you until the bolded part... HOURS?? You needed to spend HOURS explaining to your kids why their father wasn't on Facetime? You couldn't have just said he was taking a nap or he must've went out? They were THAT disappointed that you needed to spend HOURS explaining it to them? Come on, lol. This sounds like such a major exaggeration, which makes me think that you actually are controlling and you know it, which is why you feel the need to exaggerate his offenses, just to get us on your side. |
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I don’t care how much money we have, my husband going on drinking/gambling binges is totally not ok in my marriage. And my husband would not be cool with me doing that either. After one time of either of us going off the rails like this, it would be a hard “no” from the other one. And we both do trips with friends once or twice a year. A bunch of this type of trip would probably land us in counseling and perhaps divorced eventually.
I am generally fine with being sort of out of touch when one of us is gone on a trip with friends, but you don’t just not show up for a planned FaceTime with kids. And you don’t just disappear off the face of the earth in case of emergency. I’m not hassling my husband by text when he is on a guy’s trip. But if I text “hey, I’ve got to take kid to urgent care, please call me” — he would be calling me quickly. The hobby stuff would really depend. If “debt” means you have a mortgage, then a hobby splurge might be ok. But if we had 5 figures in credit card debt, neither of us would do it. For all my tough talk in here, it is VERY rare that my spouse or I say “no” to each other. We are generally in synch. The rare times we might not be in synch would typically be over how to invest our money. My husband wants to start flipping houses, and I’m a firm “no” on that. Most other micro seed investments he does, I’m generally ok with and trust his judgment. I don’t need to get bogged down in the details. |
| WHAT would you tell your spouse they couldn't do? I can't imagine imposing limits on another person. Other than my kids, of course, but they are going to be exempt from that soon. |
I wouldn't do or buy it even if it sounds unreasonable because they wouldn't say it without enough reason and if roles reversed, they'll also respect it. Even in a healthy relationship you don't always get your way, even if you are right. |
I think you're the problem not the spouse - from reading your further explanation here. |
Yeah, that wasn’t clear. The explanation does not take hours. The kids ask repeatedly over the course of hours why dad wasn’t there when we called. Not sure how long it’s been since you had little kids, but repetition is kind of a thing. I do give a short answer, usually I say I don’t know or something must have come up. But then I usually have to give it over and over again. When I have suspicions but don’t actually know why he didn’t answer. This happens every time he travels. |
Interesting. Why is that? |
To be clear, I never said “you can’t do that”. I’ve said “I really don’t want you to do that.” Because apparently in the past there has been confusion about things that thought we agreed upon and I did not. It was discussed I have not been clear enough if I disagree. So instead I started saying “I really don’t want you to do that.” |
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I think there are a whole lot of people in here trying to act like the “cool wife” when they would lose their overloving minds if their husbands were going on trips to drink/gamble and then being completely out of touch. If this post had been written differently, everyone would come in here screaming that this dude was cheating on her.
I mean, maybe this lady is a control freak, but I think there is a good chance she has been so gaslit my hubby that she is styling this all as a control issue when her husband is doing things that are outrageously inappropriate. |
Let me add, my same guidance applies whether the original post is from a hsuband or a wife. I defaulted to a wife since I think the vast majority of posters are female. But gender doesn’t actually matter. |
When you say the part in bolded, I can't tell if you feel that because you don't take trips or make purchases on hobbies, then he shouldn't either or if it means that you are unable to because he spends so much. If it's the former, then that should not matter. He should be able to take trips and take part in hobbies, even if you chose not to. If the latter - do you each have a budgeted amount each year of personal money? It sounds like you don't, but that might help both you. He will have a set amount he can spend on hobbies, trips etc and you don't get a say in how he spends it, but once he runs out, that's it. |
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OP, the FaceTime example reflects as poorly on you as it does your spouse. There is no reason to FaceTime if it’s just a short trip. And if you know he has a tendency to get busy and not want to talk, why would you promise this to the kid. I think you wanted him to not show up for the call so you can be all “whoa, is me, look what an awful spouse you are and why you shouldn’t take these trips anymore.”
I am Team OP when it comes to budgeting though. Partners shouldn’t overly control *how* they spend their money, but each spouse should stick to an overall agreed upon budget. Each should get their “fun money” allocation and they can allocate how they want. But sounds like he spends more than your family can afford. Which is disrespectful and immature. |