B STUDENTS ARE FINE!!

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

I don't think my kids need to "earn" my investment in them. My younger child is a stronger student than my older child, but they both deserve an equal share of what we're able to pay for college. If anything, the weaker student needs a smaller environment where she can more easily get to know professors. My stronger student would likely thrive in the larger environment of a big state university.

+1,000,000. These students need the extra support and encouragement found in smaller schools. I would never give up on my kid for not being an academic superstar.

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4 pages and no one has given any examples of where their B students ended up.

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Examples from my own kids and research: Ithaca, Mary Washington, High Point, ECU.

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A lot depends on how the gpa is earned. Is the gpa a 3.5 with mostly As and a really bad semester during Covid? Probably can apply to some reaches. High SAT but lower GPA - look at schools known for good teaching and advising. Low SAT and lots of Bs without rigor - aim for non-flagship state or small private, and think about pathways to grad school. Really struggling in hs or needs some extra maturation time? Post-hs private or two year with good transfer relationships. There are many pathways to success for B students.

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My DS had a 3.1 GPA from FPCS but got recruited to play Lacrosse at a P5 school. My other DS, 4.4 GPA with 1600 on the SAT, attended Yale, and that was eight years ago. The 3.1 GPA DS is currently making around 750K/year while the other Yale's DS is making 105K/year. IMHO, it is not about the school, it is how you make it while you are there. It is the EQ that matters.

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Seriously. There are so many decent colleges outside of T50. Many are In financial stress.

If you have $, any of these colleges would be happy to take ur $.

At least I hope I am right.

My kid is a sophomore at hyper competitive HS. Consistently gets B’s and B-

So keeping fingers crossed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

I don't think my kids need to "earn" my investment in them. My younger child is a stronger student than my older child, but they both deserve an equal share of what we're able to pay for college. If anything, the weaker student needs a smaller environment where she can more easily get to know professors. My stronger student would likely thrive in the larger environment of a big state university.

+1
I think you set yourself up for lifetime relationship issues/sibling tensions if you start saying one kid "deserves" more based on their academic achievements. Doesn't mean you have to spend the same on them--but the choice should be balancing between what suits their needs best and what you can afford.

+1
My "not as academic" student---3.5UW/1200/1 AP that they got their only grade lower than a B in HS in first semester (they got a D, really they got an F and teacher was nice) is a successful college grad from a T100 school with a 3.4in college, hired immediately at a great company, got a great first year review and over 10% raise. Their top choice of college cost $58K/year and with merit only cost $40K each year.
Meanwhile their "much more academic sibling" with a 3.99UW/1520/9APs with all 4/5s is at a T40 that's 80k+ and doesn't give much merit (they got none).

Both are at their best choice after reviewing acceptances and for both we would pay whatever was needed. My first did much better at the private more expensive school than at the huge State U that would have only cost $20K/year---they thrived once they found their footing and that is what college is all about.

+2 The expectation that every 14, 15 or 16 year old has the maturity or interest in academics is just not reality. Especially if they are boys. This does not mean these same kids won’t do well in college and the workplace as they mature and their brains develop in their early 20s. Getting Bs in high school is okay.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS had a 3.1 GPA from FPCS but got recruited to play Lacrosse at a P5 school. My other DS, 4.4 GPA with 1600 on the SAT, attended Yale, and that was eight years ago. The 3.1 GPA DS is currently making around 750K/year while the other Yale's DS is making 105K/year. IMHO, it is not about the school, it is how you make it while you are there. It is the EQ that matters.

Is the 3.1 student in finance, law or tech? Making 750k how many years out of school? Both boys sound talented. Congrats to them! Agree on EQ mattering. My DS has a high EQ and is the charming, extroverted, likable type. I know he will be successful regardless if where he goes to school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody said they weren't "fine". But, it doesn't make sense to pay up the nose for an expensive college where the ROI isn't there.

-signed a parent of an A and B student

This is only true you don’t grow or learn anything in college and your kid peaks at 17.

Your paying for the opportunities and facilities and the education, what are your kids doing at college if they got everything they needed in High School?

You can learn things in college and grow. But, be realistic.. not all job outcomes are the same even if you grow a lot in college.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's a big problem how status-obsessed and dreary you all sound. Also explains a lot about the current crop of intellectual thought: didactic, evangelical, rigid, and more hierarchial than an Indian caste system.

I actually pity you. That's such a sad way to live.

It's not about status. Ask a low income person whether they spend their time pontificating about status.

It's ironic you speak of the Indian caste system. Do you think the Dalits would pick an expensive college where there is very low ROI?

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Would love to hear actual outcomes from folks whose kids had B to B+ averages..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS had a 3.1 GPA from FPCS but got recruited to play Lacrosse at a P5 school. My other DS, 4.4 GPA with 1600 on the SAT, attended Yale, and that was eight years ago. The 3.1 GPA DS is currently making around 750K/year while the other Yale's DS is making 105K/year. IMHO, it is not about the school, it is how you make it while you are there. It is the EQ that matters.

Is the 3.1 student in finance, law or tech? Making 750k how many years out of school? Both boys sound talented. Congrats to them! Agree on EQ mattering. My DS has a high EQ and is the charming, extroverted, likable type. I know he will be successful regardless if where he goes to school.

This is my younger DC. Older DC was an A student with excellent SAT score while younger DC works harder but is still a B+ student who so far has good but not great PSAT scores. But while I love both of my kids, I have no problem saying that the older one is not easy to get along with and will have many more challenges interacting with people and navigating the "real world" after graduation. DC#2 won't go to a T50, or maybe even T100, school but I'm not all that worried. The end result will still be a well rounded, well educated kid who has tools to succeed and be happy.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS had a 3.1 GPA from FPCS but got recruited to play Lacrosse at a P5 school. My other DS, 4.4 GPA with 1600 on the SAT, attended Yale, and that was eight years ago. The 3.1 GPA DS is currently making around 750K/year while the other Yale's DS is making 105K/year. IMHO, it is not about the school, it is how you make it while you are there. It is the EQ that matters.

Can you talk about what he did in college, grades, grad school and what he does now to earn $750K/yr. Want to use that to motivate my low stats kid

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Anonymous wrote:LISTEN UP! B students are fine! B students will go to college and be successful!! B students will receive scholarships!

Stop calling your kids that!

They are fine!

Signed-A B student who is now a pharmacist!

Bravo and I agree!!!
signed a teacher

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Anonymous wrote:Lol. A B student wouldn't get into my run of the mill state school these days. How is that not a problem?

I think it just goes to show how crazy college admissions is these days.

I went to a middling no name state u back in the day. They used to admit almost everyone. Now? goodness.. the acceptance rate is like 60%. It's nuts.

From our rigorous private school, "known" to the local state university, the acceptance rate was regularly 65% of applicants from our school up through 2019; since then it is 30%. They are only accepting the top students (who are choosing to go elsewhere because, obviously, those kids get into a lot of great schools). So where, in the past, 2 or 3 would have enrolled, now none are, which has the perverse effect of that college not accepting kids from this school who would have gone there, due to poor yield among kids who use it as a safety. AI is not doing a good job with admissions right now.